over training?

[Armykid93]

I currently do 20 sets per muscle group on any given day, ie: bicep day I do 5 different workouts with 4 sets per workout, is this to much?

[Turkish Juicer]

5 exercises and 20 sets is way too much for bicep muscle.

[auswest]

I currently do 20 sets per muscle group on any given day, ie: bicep day I do 5 different workouts with 4 sets per workout, is this to much?

Biceps I typically do 3 exercises, 3 sets each on chest day.

[Turkish Juicer]

3 exercises with minimal rest between sets, finish each exercise with an intense drop set, you got yourself a solid bicep workout buddy!

[Armykid93]

Is it ok to do more sets on certain muscles?

[MickeyKnox]

on cycle.

reps are 5-8 (warm up is 10-12 reps)

two warm ups (second warm up is a feeling set)

then two working (second includes a two or three forced reps at the end, or drop set)

then one "finishing set" - per muscle group

off cycle.

basically same as above but higher reps (8-12) less weight.

[MickeyKnox]

^^ right or wrong this works for me.

[dooie]

on cycle.

reps are 5-8 (warm up is 10-12 reps)

two warm ups (second warm up is a feeling set)

then two working (second includes a two or three forced reps at the end, or drop set)

then one "finishing set" - per muscle group

off cycle.

basically same as above but higher reps (8-12) less weight.

You didn't answer OPs question, you do 3 sets but how many exercises?

[dooie]

Is it ok to do more sets on certain muscles?

AK I normally go by feel for my workouts, I always keep my bis and tris to 3 exercises though, sometimes 2 for bis if I do them on back day.

With chest for example, some days I do 4 exercises and others I will do 6 exercises (some exercises suppersetted) I vary my rep range considering what exercise I'm doing, compound movements are usually 8-12 reps, isolation movements are 12-20 reps, hell some days if I'm focusing on upper chest I will even do up to 6 working sets for incline DBs,

Keep your bigger muscles on around a total of 12-16sets
Arms - 6-9 sets

[MickeyKnox]

You didn't answer OPs question, you do 3 sets but how many exercises?

im sorry. 3 exercises per muscle group and occasionally i throw in a 4th on larger muscle.

[Turkish Juicer]

Is it ok to do more sets on certain muscles?

Absolutely.

You ought to go heavier on large muscle groups at any rate, these being legs-back-chest.

I do only 3 exercises and 9-12 sets for bicep because it works for me, however, leg day I usually do a total of 25 sets at a much higher rep range compared to biceps.

This merely has to do with the amount of muscle fibers present in each muscle group and how much they can take/how much do they need.

Then there are curl monkeys who run 5 sets for biceps and 3 sets for legs, they are just something else...

[Armykid93]

Thanks guys

[Barbellthane]

biceps - low volume 12-16 sets
High volume 16-20 sets

I really like doing 16 sets on biceps, other wise I don't notice sh*t. Of course biceps in my routine have their own day. 12 sets doesn't feel like I did anything. I usually do 2 barbell exercises with 6-8 rep range and 2 db exercises with 10-12 rep range.

overtraining is not eating enough, its fairly simple.

[Armykid93]

biceps - low volume 12-16 sets
High volume 16-20 sets

I really like doing 16 sets on biceps, other wise I don't notice sh*t. Of course biceps in my routine have their own day. 12 sets doesn't feel like I did anything. I usually do 2 barbell exercises with 6-8 rep range and 2 db exercises with 10-12 rep range.

overtraining is not eating enough, its fairly simple.

over training is not eating enough? That doesn't make sense

[Barbellthane]

Over training occurs when you are calorie and carb deficient. No glycogen no ATP. I understand you also have to give the muscles a rest but generally people are simply not eating enough. Most people do not get the proper rest either, irregular sleep patterns don't help either. "sleeping in" doesn't count. This is my opinion, take it for what it's worth. I'm not an expert but I play one on the Internet.

[Turkish Juicer]

overtraining is not eating enough, its fairly simple.

Overtraining and undereating are completely different phenomena.

You can stuff your face with CHO and PRO after a leg routine and make sure the eating aspect of recovery is all set and done, but this does NOT mean your muscles are ready for another leg exercise the next day, as a matter of fact.

Overtraining simply refers to training a muscle group before it has fully recovered, regardless of what may be the reason for lack of recovery.

No need to sweat this well-established notion by trying to bring in a rather eccentric approach.

[Turkish Juicer]

double post

[Armykid93]

Overtraining and undereating are completely different phenomena.

You can stuff your face with CHO and PRO after a leg routine and make sure the eating aspect of recovery is all set and done, but this does NOT mean your muscles are ready for another leg exercise the next day, as a matter of fact.

Overtraining simply refers to training a muscle group before it has fully recovered, regardless of what may be the reason for lack of recovery.

No need to sweat this well-established notion by trying to bring in a rather eccentric approach.

Look that's what I've thought to. If you under eat your not going to make gains but I don't think it puts you more at risk for over training