Switching from gel to shots

[edmundo22]

As in my previous thread Iv found out I'm allergic to the gel so I need to switch to shots.
Problems is I'm no longer with the guy who prescribed me the gel so I have to go to a new doctor, I have been of the gel for 6 days now after 4months and the allergy as cleared up but now I'm worried about crashing.

I have to be able to convince the new doctor to prescribe me injections so I need to state my case based on stopping TRT cold turkey/ crashing and HTPA supression.

I don't know much on either topic so if you guys could help me out here that would be a God send.

Sorry about making the same post on two separate threads but wasn't getting any response on the last thread and my doctor appointment is tomorrow so need this info ASAP.

Last thing what equivalent of injection would have the same effect as 50 mg of one sachet of testogel a day??

Again thank you for your help on this.

[zaggahamma]

You shouldnt need to convince..bring in your bloodwork from previous, the old rx for the gel, and explain the viscous flesh eating looking rash u got from the gel

ask for 100mg per week prescription inject that will yeld around 70mg...if it has to be 50mg then do the math based on 100mg yielding 70mg....being decent at math i'd say around 80 would get you 50...

[bass]

exactly what JP said, but don't ask for 80 ew, let him make that judgment and if he says 50 eow then tell him how terrible that protocol is and educate him on the half life. I'd say at least 100 mgs ew would be a good start. also talk to him about hCG and AI's.

[edmundo22]

Nice one guys, this particular doctor I doubt knows much about HRT but I do know hes more likely to write a script then any other doctor that I know off.
So what's the deal with HTPA shutdown after 4months?
Need to be clued in about this before the appointment so I can make a better case.

Also think I messed up when I wrote the dose the first time, its testogel 50mg / 5g sachets, so think its just 5g's a day.

My AI should arrive in the post tomorrow and Ill post up my E2 results which should come out this week, if I can get all this working I'll then look into HCG.

[zaggahamma]

I knew Wut u meant about the gel dosage
Al the same
Wuts your concern still convincing the Dr? Your hpta wasn't optimal before trt so shutdown is irrelevant

[edmundo22]

Just really want this to go well, I don't know much about shutdown and I doubt this doctor will either so need to be fully armed with the right info when I go into this appointment.

Also what kind of test, cyp/enanthate etc?

Could even get a script for nebido..very last thing what size needle will I need to self inject?

[kelkel]

This side of pond is mostly cyp as you know. There are guys here that swear by Nebido (Marcus) and have posted about it. Search up their threads. Weekly injects or possibly twice weekly as opposed to Nebido at maybe 4 times a year. Def worth a shot, pun intended. Print out all you can, highlight the relevant parts. Write down all your questions so you don't forget and know the answers before you go. Nothing worse than walking out and realizing you forgot to ask something! Don't settle for poor treatment.

Going off your going to crash and be left with nothing. Without other meds to stimulate natural production (clomid, nolva, hcg) you're body will struggle with re-starting. Not saying it won't but it depends on what issues put you on TRT in the first place as to how you recover, or if you make it to a decent level. Guys can do one cycle and never make it back to normal levels. Others do all the time. It's all relative to the individual.

[Babyslim]

Shut down is simple. Your putting extra test in your body, your body detects it, your body doesn't send signals to produce test. You need to add HCG and have an AI on hand.
For weekly injections most go with Cyp. I would read into nebido to make sure that's really the route you want to go, Works great for some, not so great for others(levels peak and fall). I use a 3mil syringe with a 1 inch 21G needle for gluteal, though i think many use 23 gauge, either way ask for extra needles so you can inject with a different needle than you draw with. Don't worry to much about it. Read the stickies, bring your blood work and script.