Turinabol Only Cycle - Questions and guidance. Var instead?

[dsm1042]

Here's my cycle so far:

5 weeks 40 mg ED
PCT Nolvadex for 2 weeks

I'm 24 years old, 5'8 weighing 172 lbs. Been lifting since for 4 years steady, not including dicking around in highschool.

Just trying to do an ultra simple, and safe cycle to test the waters and get myself ready for summer.
This pct seems ultra simple, I have clomid, but i heard using nolva and clomid is over kill for tbol. Any advice? Do I need ZMA?

Should i do a Var only Cycle in stead? If i add test to this Tbol cycle can i still keep it at 5 weeks or will i have to run it longer?

I honestly just want to help my body get extra shredded for this summer, I have a small belly from bulking but my upper abs are still visible, I was hoping a quick tbol cycle could help get me leaner.

Thanks for your help

[ata1979]

Normally I would tell you to lift alittle more but you sound like you made up your mind. Tbol or Var are both good choices for your goals. Most guys here will tell you to do test first but thats nonsense to me as long as your doing the lighter stuff like Var or Tbol. If you decide on Tbol keep the nolvadex around because it could aromatize, has happened to friends. In other words if your nips get itchy take the Nolva. Var will probably lean you out alittle more and Clomid alone is enough for PCt in the majority of people. You wont need Nolva cause Var doesnt aromatize.

[aronjrsmil]

I qould really like to hear some of your results on this. Curious about tbol myself.

[ata1979]

dont expect Test-like results. You gain about 5-7lbs of hard dry muscle. Doesnt make you bloat too much. Increases endurance. Your not gonna put on 10-15 lbs or your lifts are gonna go up 30-40lbs. I'm 33 now, married with a 4 month old baby. I dont go for the bodybuilder look anymore. I also live in Istanbul, not alotta competition walking around on the street. So for me juice like Tbol and Var are ideal. I just dont wanna deal with heavy sides, a long pct, and hiding pins from the wifey. It all depends on what you want from your cycle.

[aronjrsmil]

dont expect Test-like results. You gain about 5-7lbs of hard dry muscle. Doesnt make you bloat too much. Increases endurance. Your not gonna put on 10-15 lbs or your lifts are gonna go up 30-40lbs. I'm 33 now, married with a 4 month old baby. I dont go for the bodybuilder look anymore. I also live in Istanbul, not alotta competition walking around on the street. So for me juice like Tbol and Var are ideal. I just dont wanna deal with heavy sides, a long pct, and hiding pins from the wifey. It all depends on what you want from your cycle.

How do you feel tbol increases endurance exactly?

[ata1979]

How do you feel tbol increases endurance exactly?

Dont know how, it just does. I and my friends who have tried Tbol have all experience a marked increase in cardio performance. I'm sure there is a good explaination if you google Tbol and endurance someweher on the net.

[MTBiker6696]

how come no one bashed u and say u need to take it with Test.??

im thinking about turinabol and test for my 2nd cycle in about 6 months or less

[Renesis]

Because it is Tbol or Var, nothing similar to lets say... Deca.