Upcoming Cycle (Experts Feel Free to Criticize)

[bodybuilding55]

*Stats and Info:
Height: 5'7
Weight: 185
BF%: 11%
Cycle Info: 2nd Cycle
First Cycle Consisted of 12 Weeks of D-bol (Kick-Start 6 Weeks),Test E 500mg (Weekly), and Tren E (500mg Weekly) PCT: Arimidex/Clomid/Nolva for 4 Weeks
Sides: Back Acne/Breast Tenderness/Minor Gyno on Both Nips
It has been 8 months since my last cycle did Time On+PCT=Time Off X 2
Back Acne has completely cleared up along with all Gyno from Right Nip, Left Nip still has a little Lump Under

Goal: Lower Body Fat Percentage/Avoid any possibility of Gyno
Ideal Weight: 190 8% BF

*Pre-Cycle
Weeks 1-2 Nolvadex 10mg ED

*Cycle
Weeks 1-8 500mg Test E
Weeks 3-8 40mg Stanazol ED
Weeks 1-8 10mg Nolvadex ED

*PCT
Weeks 1-4 Nolvadex 40/40/20/20mg
Weeks 1-4 Clomid 50/50/25/25

I have done a lot of reading in other forums and in this forum but all of your input is greatly appreciated. One last thing I'm utilizing Test E because I have it on hand and can't get my hand's on Test P.

[bodybuilding55]

Nutrition Consist Of:

Breakfast: 1/2 Cup of Oats/7 Egg Whites/ 2 Whole Eggs/ 1 Banana/Multi-Vitamin, Milk Thistle, BCAA's, Glutamine, Creatine (45 min Later I Hit the Gym) Macros: Protein 52/Carbs 36/Fats 12
Pre-Work Out: Pre-Workout Supp/Creatine
Post Workout: Protein Shake, Glutamine, Chow Mein (Uncooked), Flour Tortilla Macros: Protein 52/Carbs 52/Fats 15
Lunch: 6 oz Chicken Breast/1/2 Cup White Rice/Avocado-Half Macros: Protein 44/Carbs 42/Fats 19.5
Snack: 6 oz Lean Turkey Breast/Whole Wheat Tortilla Macros: Protein 43/ Carbs 20/ Fats 5.25
Dinner: 4 oz 93% Lean Ground Beef/ 5 Egg Whites Protein 48/ Fats 8

I season all items with either real peppers (red/yellow/green) or onions so no extra salts or potassium.

I know that I need to add more calories so any suggestions and or corrections to my Nutrition Plan would be appreciated.

[binsser]

Ok for a start you dont need nolvadex pre-cycle and you dont need nolvadex on cycle you need it for pct and you need it on hand in case gyno starts to block estro while the arimidex keeps it lowered.

Test-e is a minimum of 10-12 weeks 12 being pref 8 is a waste of time period bud!

so i would do

2 x 250 a week test-e for 12 weeks
arimidex 1 pill every 4 days
hcg 2 x 250 iu a week

pct

clomid /nolvadex

job done! hope this helps / letro migh be a good thing to have on hand also

[bodybuilding55]

Binsser- There is a great article posted on here by Ronnie Rowland titled Slingshot training it's a gread read. I tried inserting the hyperlink but since I'm a new member it won't let me till I have 25 posts.

To make a long story short. Dude is a Vet on here and seems like this guy really knows what he is talking about.. Highlights of the Read pretty much state that optimum levels of a Steroid are experienced from week 3 to week 8 and in order to experience higher growth or results you would have to raise the dosage after taking two weeks off atleast with the Slingshot approach.. Let me know what you think.

[gonzo6183]

Sling shot is not somehting that should be considered for beginners and a 12 week cycle of a long ester would possibly be more effective, you will get a better idea as you run your cycle and then with time and experience you can find out what works for you.

Binsser: Considering he already has Gyno in his left nipple, the nolva is actually a good approach to get rid of it (ive used it myself) 40mg ED for 5 days followed by 20mg ED remainder of cycle then back to 40mg for PCT

[Capebuffalo]

Ronnie knows exactly what he is talking about. But it is for the experienced. You basically run 2 or more 10 week cycles to make the most gains on short runs. This is very effective. But is not for a beginner or someone not willing to be put on TRT. Stick with a 12 week cycle. If you want to only run 8 weeks switch to pro instead of e. Binsser has told you the best way for you to go

[dooie]

*Stats and Info:
Height: 5'7
Weight: 185
BF%: 11%
Cycle Info: 2nd Cycle
First Cycle Consisted of 12 Weeks of D-bol (Kick-Start 6 Weeks),Test E 500mg (Weekly), and Tren E (500mg Weekly) PCT: Arimidex/Clomid/Nolva for 4 Weeks
Sides: Back Acne/Breast Tenderness/Minor Gyno on Both Nips
It has been 8 months since my last cycle did Time On+PCT=Time Off X 2
Back Acne has completely cleared up along with all Gyno from Right Nip, Left Nip still has a little Lump Under

Goal: Lower Body Fat Percentage/Avoid any possibility of Gyno
Ideal Weight: 190 8% BF

*Pre-Cycle
Weeks 1-2 Nolvadex 10mg ED

*Cycle
Weeks 1-8 500mg Test E
Weeks 3-8 40mg Stanazol ED
Weeks 1-8 10mg Nolvadex ED

*PCT
Weeks 1-4 Nolvadex 40/40/20/20mg
Weeks 1-4 Clomid 50/50/25/25

I have done a lot of reading in other forums and in this forum but all of your input is greatly appreciated. One last thing I'm utilizing Test E because I have it on hand and can't get my hand's on Test P.

One thing I'll say is 8 weeks is too short mate! Use an AI instead of a serm (nolva) while on cycle

[stpete]

Yes, a 12 week cycle w/an ai and hcg would be better right now. PCT would be nolva and clomid.

[bodybuilding55]

Thank you everyone for all of your advice. I will reconsider my cycle and extend it to 12 weeks by adding more Test E to it and an AI (Arimidex) and run the Winstrol on the last 6 weeks of the cycle to harden up gains. Sounds like a plan. I start monday so wish me luck buds!

[gixxerboy1]

i would run the winny up to pct. So 2 weeks longer then the test e

[bodybuilding55]

Thanks for the advice gixxerboy1. I have two questions for you. The first one is are you saying run winstrol for 8 weeks instead of 6 up until PCT or still run it for 6 weeks just two weeks later so it runs out right when PCT Starts. The second is what would be the reasoning behind running stanazol until the start of PCT? Just trying to learn the logic behind the method from a you sir. I know that with Test E the compound stays active in the blood for 2 weeks after the injection is that why? Thank you.

[trschnei]

Ok for a start you dont need nolvadex pre-cycle and you dont need nolvadex on cycle you need it for pct and you need it on hand in case gyno starts to block estro while the arimidex keeps it lowered.

Test-e is a minimum of 10-12 weeks 12 being pref 8 is a waste of time period bud!

so i would do

2 x 250 a week test-e for 12 weeks
arimidex 1 pill every 4 days
hcg 2 x 250 iu a week

pct

clomid /nolvadex

job done! hope this helps / letro migh be a good thing to have on hand also

... the half life of adex is 2-3 days.. i disagree with this recommendation.. i would go .25 EOD.. this keeps the ai in your system at a constant rate instead of risking that window of drop off.

....just sayin... lol

[gixxerboy1]

Thanks for the advice gixxerboy1. I have two questions for you. The first one is are you saying run winstrol for 8 weeks instead of 6 up until PCT or still run it for 6 weeks just two weeks later so it runs out right when PCT Starts. The second is what would be the reasoning behind running stanazol until the start of PCT? Just trying to learn the logic behind the method from a you sir. I know that with Test E the compound stays active in the blood for 2 weeks after the injection is that why? Thank you.

Sorry i wasnt clear. I would still run it 6 weeks. Just start it later so it ends at pct.
Yes the test is still active in your system for those 2 weeks.

[kelkel]

Agree on the smaller more frequent doses of adex. It has a 46 hr half-life. EOD is good.

[binsser]

yeah i did think about his gyno and maybe the nolva would be the way to go and yes ive read ronnies thread throughout and have massive respect for him in everyway and i could be one in a million BUT dont agree my gains slow in week 6 and then in week 8 go mental again right up to week 10 its majorly noticable so all i can say is everyones differant but every cycle for me has been the same bud and test-e is def a 12 week cycle it takes 6 to notice differances and 8 is when it really gets going to stop would be a waste of time bud!

[bodybuilding55]

Hey what's going on guys I ran into a problem. So I have everything I need for the cycle now but can't get my hands on an A.I. i'm thinking of just going to be using the nolva and clomid for pct and some nolva while on and reduce the cycle to 10 weeks to minimize the time I will be exposed to the test. I have but I'm a bit nervous about chancing it but let me know what you guys think.