The proliferation of AAS message forums - helping or hurting with teen steroid use

[Juice Authority]

I've often wonder if I knew then (when I was teenager or in my early 20s) what I know now, would I have made the same mistakes? I'm honestly not sure. I know I was clueless when I first started experimenting with AAS, but I'm not sure if more knowledge of the subject matter would have made a difference. I'd like to think it would have, but I was extremely stubborn and thickheaded back then, even to some degree now (age 39) and I'm much more informed. Is the abundance of information a helpful deterrent to those inclined to use AAS at a young age, or does it fan the flames so to speak? What say you?

[NotConvincedYet]

I often think the same thing. There was barely nothing on the internet 10-15 years ago except basic steroid profiles information and maybe a story or two. I lacked a source back then though, so I think that was my saviour. If I had a source when I was 20-25 yers old, I think I would have made a big mistake. I even went to a local doctor to ask question, and he booted me out, scared I was going to get him in trouble. Yeah thanks for caring doc!

Honestly, if I had these forums 15 years ago, I think it would have helped. I knew nothing of using roids at an early age until all this info on the internet came. But I am diligent, and really want to do things with minimal damage to my body. Which therein lies the single determining factor about whether forums are a help or hinderance... Attitude. I think those who use due diligence, think ahead, listen wisely to the veterans will find the information age beneficial. On the other hand, people will be people... Either back in the day 15, 20 years ago, or today in this day where great info is available, thee will be ignorance and lack of foresight and therefore people who will still go ahead and roid up!

So to answer your question, I think the information age helps smart people, it may prevent people from making a bad mistake, it will guide those better who are going to do it anyway, and it wont make a difference with foolish people!

[The Bear 79]

I have seen dozens of kids detoured from using too young after being advised of the potential dangers. There are always the hard headed, ignorant, tough guys that will often go as far as threatening you if you try to detour them, & the reckless unknowledgable" under 25 defenders" that rush in to save the day & help these kids cycle, don't make things any easier, but I believe if you stay the course of caution & warning, you will save many more than you will lose, even in spite of the underage cycling advocates.

[PowerHouse1900]

Helping teenagers that are on the fence and are open to hearing about the risk/reward.

Hurting teenagers that are hell bent on using them anyway. I started at age 16 by joining a board that is no longer around. Ten years ago certain forums gave advise to anyone regardless of their age. The mods/vets were more interested in their bottom lines from sourcing than running a stand up organization. That being said, after I decided to take the risk no one would get in my way.

[PowerHouse1900]

I would also add that more than a handful of the "detoured" seekers are just giving us lip service as they plan on using anyway.

[logen32]

Stopped me from doing a cycle at 19. Had my test and dbol ready but decided to sell it. Did my first cycle at 23. I know i could have held off for another two years but at least I waited 4 years thanks to this message bored.

[JohnnyVegas]

I know the advice given here doesn't deter all young guys to wait, but it does change the minds of some.

More importantly, it can help the guys that are just told "take 1ml of this once a week" and they don't know what dose they are taking. It helps the guys that don't know how esters work, or have never heard of PCT. It helps guys that show up in the middle of a cycle and don't know what an AI is or what dose to take.

It helped me figure out how TRT worked and put me in touch with a community of knowledgable people.

[fit2bOld]

Best thing is that there is resource to turn to to find the information.
Like Vegas i was looking for more info about TRT, I got a lot of great info and was then able to take charge of my own treatment.
Not to mention looking pretty buff for 50.

[austinite]

What's frustrating is the defensive-attack-like responses you get sometimes. Some will ask a question and as soon as they get replies, suddenly they don't need help, have done research and know it all. Unfortunately that is the majority. But I certainly won't dismiss the educated young guys and girls that listen to experienced advice and run with it. Rare but it makes my day.

[Juice Authority]

Stopped me from doing a cycle at 19. Had my test and dbol ready but decided to sell it. Did my first cycle at 23. I know i could have held off for another two years but at least I waited 4 years thanks to this message bored.

Cool. This is testimony I like to hear.

[stpete]

It helps. Sometimes new members will PM as a last resort to get an "off the record" if you will opinion on a cycle that they've already been told is bad and that their age makes it even worse. On 2 occasions, and i won't mention names of course, i've helped guys who initially only wanted to use AAS cause they thought it was the only way to improve strength or just overall being fit. Long story short, they just needed a solid routine and diet. And they listened! Both of them took the advice and ran w/it. Both are currently happy w/the results they are seeing and are happy they didn't start AAS.

And personally, i didn't start till i was 27 but that was in 1997. And although my friend/contact was a paramedic, there was several compounds that my cycles lacked back then. And i wouldn't even think about running a cycle without them since i found this board in 2004.Maybe 05. Yeah, i lurked for quite a while. But anyway, i can't start to think that it does anything but help.

Good thread by the way.

[cincon123]

What's frustrating is the defensive-attack-like responses you get sometimes. Some will ask a question and as soon as they get replies, suddenly they don't need help, have done research and know it all. Unfortunately that is the majority. But I certainly won't dismiss the educated young guys and girls that listen to experienced advice and run with it. Rare but it makes my day.

I was very serious about taking them, I am 20 btw, but this guy made me not to do it.. Thanks again man. Just wanted to say it here lol

[Flacco]

If you only change 1 persons mind out of 50 or a hundred, you've made a difference. The rest are probably gonna do it no matter what they hear.

[austinite]

I was very serious about taking them, I am 20 btw, but this guy made me not to do it.. Thanks again man. Just wanted to say it here lol

Can't wait to see your progress bro.

[Juice Authority]

If you only change 1 persons mind out of 50 or a hundred, you've made a difference. The rest are probably gonna do it no matter what they hear.

That was the indirect purpose of this thread.

[songdog]

I agree with the Bear.Some you can help others have already made their mind up.But we got to many kids who think they know something giving bad advice.

[trschnei]

I wish that the sources that these kids go to would be more responsible, it may be different now but when i was in highschool they got gear off the local gym rats.. pretty effed up man.. not only were they supplying kids that had no business doing AAS, but looking back on it the info these guys were giving my friends was absolutely wrong.

but i guess all they really see is dollar signs.

im really glad there are a group of guys out there like you (mods and knowledgable members) that give a fck.

[chrisdog212]

I think this is a great thing to have a forum of responsible people such as the knowledeable members on here. Theres always going to be the young guys like me who want the results now and try to find the easiest way to ge them.

Its a great thing to see a group of people whom have no idea of most of the people on here; and given the fact they give such great advice on prevention to people who they will probably never get any monetary value from.

Im 20 years old and yall really helped me make the decision to not do a AAS cycle while im young.
Given the fact that I started the cycle (I stopped 1 week into the cycle) if you all were not here and this forum never existed I would have finish the cycle and risked permenant damage to myself.

Even bigger bonus being at a decent size im at now when I do finally get old enough to make an even more educated decision without the even bigger risk of damaging myself at such a young age ill be a beast finally haha.

Thanks again everybody!!

[Juice Authority]

I wish that the sources that these kids go to would be more responsible, it may be different now but when i was in highschool they got gear off the local gym rats.. pretty effed up man.. not only were they supplying kids that had no business doing AAS, but looking back on it the info these guys were giving my friends was absolutely wrong.

but i guess all they really see is dollar signs.

im really glad there are a group of guys out there like you (mods and knowledgable members) that give a fck.

This isn't going to happen. Most of the time sources have no clue about the user's background or even who they are. I believe it's more the responsibility of people who have been there, made the same mistakes, and can share their viewpoint.

[gymsoldier]

Sometimes though, I think some of these under 25's don't even have any juice on hand and are just posting about what they'd like to do. Day dreaming so to speak.

[Juice Authority]

Sometimes though, I think some of these under 25's don't even have any juice on hand and are just posting about what they'd like to do. Day dreaming so to speak.

That's like hanging out in whore house while your buddies are banging away. Eventually you're going to dip a toe in the water.

[Papiriqui]

As everyone mentioned, the hard headed people will still do it regardless but for those who are a bit smarter and are looking for advise from the experienced ones and looking to do the right thing to the best of their ability, it does help, tremendously!!! I did it to young going by people who were older but did not know crap!!! Regardless now i have looked into TRT and depending on results of lab i may be prepared for it or just some added knowledge to my belt.

Either way this is a fantastic forum for those who are truly looking for advise on how to properly use AAS, workout routines, techniques, nutrition (myself) etc.

[JAB1]

I agree that it helps those who will seek out informations and listen to quality advice. I have learned a shitload on here and so glad I found it. OUt of the 4 or 5 guys I know that talk about juicing, I am the ONLY one who does pct, etc. I have one friend who does things correctly because I preach to him what Ive learned here. The other guys dont know im on but all i hear is horror stories, It damn sure would do them some good to get on here and learn but prob wont happen, they get annoyed with my buddy when he questions them about what they are doing....