swifto! can u give me some help

[crosscannan]

Swifto-

I have read many of your posts and respect your exp and knowledge. I have been on trt for about 5 months. The last 3 months I have upped my dosage to about to roughly 350 every 5 days of cyp. After reading your post(s) i started last week taking armidex .5 eod and hcg 200iu every other day. my question to you ( hopefully you ) is how long to i need to run my cylce like this with the armidex and hcg before i can start my pct? i have about a month left of cyp and plenty of armidex and hcg. So i was going to , unless advised otherwise, to finish off my cyp and move into pct.

I have never done pct before and paid the price for it in my early 20's when i took gear for the last time. I have not taking anything since then until recently and have no interest in making that same mistake.
Can u please lay out a solid plan of action for me. I am hoping to hear from you as i know that opinions very so much. I trust your opinion after reading your posts. I did take clomid for a bit one time but it made me very emotional and i had hot flashes. I will take it again if i have to. I have access to just about everything- nova, clomid, etc..
Looking for some help.
Thank you all.
Obviously i am aware of the fact that my my dosage now is not a trt dosage. But I have one of those minds that if a little is good, more is better. I didnt even really need trt to begin with. It is so easy to get prescribed for.......

[gixxerboy1]

if your on trt you dont do pct. You just go back to you trt dose

[magic32]

^^^Agreed.
Swift's recommendation was for coming off, not returning to TRT. PCT is ONLY for coming off cycle or TRT/HRT.

[jpowell]

hold please bros---lol---im sure i can read in the proper section. but lemme make sure i grasp the subject correctly...

TRT/HRT is when you have prescribed test from your dr?
blast/cruise means---blast high dose 500mgs vs cruise which is standard trt/hrt dose?
if your on hrt/trt its ok to blast--then go back to cruise when cycle is over?
no need for pct on reg dose--as this is your test production?

these are statements/questions making sure i grasp. answer if you may or if i misunderstood.

[DeadlyD]

hold please bros---lol---im sure i can read in the proper section. but lemme make sure i grasp the subject correctly...

TRT/HRT is when you have prescribed test from your dr?
blast/cruise means---blast high dose 500mgs vs cruise which is standard trt/hrt dose?
if your on hrt/trt its ok to blast--then go back to cruise when cycle is over?
no need for pct on reg dose--as this is your test production?

these are statements/questions making sure i grasp. answer if you may or if i misunderstood.

correct

[crosscannan]

fellaz! I dont wish to get back on my prescribed dose. I wish to get off all together. advice?

[AD]

i would consider your situation as a 5month shut down so far, trt dose in the beginning and cycle dose recently. which makes recovery a little harder compared to a usual 3month shutdown/cycle.

i don't think you should finish up your test c anymore. i think if you want to attempt to recover to natty test production, you must stop immediately to end the long duration of shut down and run pct 2wks/18days later. the longer you're shutdown, the tougher to recover.

you can continue hcg till pct.

pct may also need to be a little longer than the usual 4wks. maybe 5-6wks.

[AD]

and you should fire the Dr who prescribed you trt when you don't absolutely needed it.

[600@50]

Hey crosscannan. Welcome to the forum. You may get more info in the TRT forum. However being on TRT is not all that bad. I've been on test at 200 mg every 7 -10 days other than the occasional cycle since 1994 and I feel great at age 51. I'm not trying to convince you not to come off just let you know it really can help you long term.

[stpete]

fellaz! I dont wish to get back on my prescribed dose. I wish to get off all together. advice?

In that case i'd do this 18 days after your last injection:

Clomid-50/50/50/25/25/25
Nolva-40/40/40/20/20/20

And yeah, run your a-dex and hcg to pct.

[crosscannan]

thank you all! Can u guys explain to me what 50/50/40/4o etc means. I learning as i go here..
I might decide 6 mo's down the road to go on trt for good at a dose of 150-200/week. I am def going to get off totally for a bit and get my level re checked in a few months.
My wife wants me to go to my dr about getting off and how to do it, but i trust you guys, the experts, more! It seem dr's dont know shiat about pct. And obviously, neither do I.

I think my T level was low when orig got on trt since i had finished a pro hormone not long before testing. the pro hormone was called hardcore t, i think..

[freddy1418]

50/50/40/40 is 50 mg per week then another 50 followed by 2 weeks of 40 mg... prohormones have the ability to completely shut your system down as well... it is a great possibility your test level came back low cause of the ph... id pct then wait a month (possibly 2 months) and get your levels tested again... you'll def know within 2 months how your body bounced back or if it did... a body is never guaranteed to bounce back after cycling.. that's a main reason a lot of the guys are on trt/hrt now.. hope I was of some help and good luck on your journey

[ron2203]

50/50/40/40 is 50 mg per week1 or 50 mg per day for week 1?

[gixxerboy1]

50 is 50mg a day for the first week 50 a day for a 2nd week. then 40 a day for the 3rd and so on