Is test level of 450 too low

[Mr_Prop_var_Testen]

32 yrs 5'7 77 kg

[Brohim]

levels alway's flucuate. 450 is normal. IF it was 250 it would be a concern.

[MickeyKnox]

^^ agreed. 450 is about average for today. used to be over 700 not that long ago.

[Capebuffalo]

There are some guys who do okay in the 400's, but even in the 400's most males will be struggling a little. Again, it is possible for a male to have, for example, total testosterone of 450 ng/dl and feel just as good as a guy that has total testosterone of 700 ng/dl, but this is unlikely. The same goes for high testosterone as well.

[Juice Authority]

There are some guys who do okay in the 400's, but even in the 400's most males will be struggling a little. Again, it is possible for a male to have, for example, total testosterone of 450 ng/dl and feel just as good as a guy that has total testosterone of 700 ng/dl, but this is unlikely. The same goes for high testosterone as well.

The relevant measurement is not total test, it's free test. There are two types of test, bound testosterone and free test. Bound (the more prevalent form) is inactive, which means it's doing nothing because it is bound to something. Free test is bound to nothing and IS active. This means your body can use it (i.e. you "feel" it). When you're measuring your test levels what you really want to know is how much of the "total" test is active (i.e. "free).

[kelkel]

^^That. Do you have your Free or bio T level available? SHBG? Immediate thought also would be to start supplementing with vit D as most are inherentely low and by raising your levels it will reduce your shbg which in turn will free up more T for use.

[Juice Authority]

^^That. Do you have your Free or bio T level available? SHBG? Immediate thought also would be to start supplementing with vit D as most are inherentely low and by raising your levels it will reduce your shbg which in turn will free up more T for use.

Case in point. I was recently running 1gm of test/wk with EQ and felt off. Sex drive was low and felt lethargic. Reduced test to 400mgs and added Mast P. Ran the Mast at 100mgs/ed for 10 days. 3 days into I was horny as a goat. The more test you use the more SHBG is produced. Now I'm cruising on Cyp and Primo - 400/600/wk and feel great. Avena Sative is an herb that can also reduce SHBG. Urtica Dioica is another one. This one can also lower prolactin.

[Atomini]

I had no idea increased vitamin D lowers SHBG levels...

[warmouth]

Case in point. I was recently running 1gm of test/wk with EQ and felt off. Sex drive was low and felt lethargic. Reduced test to 400mgs and added Mast P. Ran the Mast at 100mgs/ed for 10 days. 3 days into I was horny as a goat. The more test you use the more SHBG is produced. Now I'm cruising on Cyp and Primo - 400/600/wk and feel great. Avena Sative is an herb that can also reduce SHBG. Urtica Dioica is another one. This one can also lower prolactin.

Hey buddy! You might can help me on this subject. I have been taking Prop (in my 4th week) and I am no more hornier than I was when I had low T. I know it is affecting my wife, so I really need to roll with something to get the mood going like crazy. Once a month isnt going to cut if for a couple married under 2 years. What should I add?

[Juice Authority]

Hey buddy! You might can help me on this subject. I have been taking Prop (in my 4th week) and I am no more hornier than I was when I had low T. I know it is affecting my wife, so I really need to roll with something to get the mood going like crazy. Once a month isnt going to cut if for a couple married under 2 years. What should I add?

I had the same problem not too long ago. The culprit was too much SHBG. I reduced test from 1gm to 400mgs and added Mast P at 100mgs/ed for 10 days. Problem solved. Test in a bound state is useless.

[warmouth]

I had the same problem not too long ago. The culprit was too much SHBG. I reduced test from 1gm to 400mgs and added Mast P at 100mgs/ed for 10 days. Problem solved. Test in a bound state is useless.

So would you recommend the Mast P for me? I am not sure my source has that available for me to get, but if he doesnt, is there anything else you would recommend? I figured Test alone would have me humping her leg off but it hasnt at all. I didnt know it would be rendered useless. Thank you.

[Juice Authority]

So would you recommend the Mast P for me? I am not sure my source has that available for me to get, but if he doesnt, is there anything else you would recommend? I figured Test alone would have me humping her leg off but it hasnt at all. I didnt know it would be rendered useless. Thank you.

Or Proviron. I used Mast because I had it on hand. In some individuals oral Proviron works just as good, if not better, to lower SHGB.

[ron2203]

What's SHGB?

[Atomini]

SHBG stands for Sex Hormone Binding Globulin. It is a protein that is secreted by the body as one of the many methods to maintain homeostasis with your hormones. It binds to sex hormones (as it's name implies), and we are most concerned with it's binding affinity to testosterone in this case.

When it binds to testosterone (or any sex hormone - it even binds to estrogens, and DHT, etc.), it renders it useless. It's basically like restraining the hormone and not allowing it to do its job. So as a result, if 50% of your total testosterone in your system is bound to SHBG, then that means that 50% of your total testosterone is sitting around floating in your bloodstream doing absolutely nothing.

Some sex hormones and anabolic steroids have more of an affinity for SHBG than others, and some have less of a binding affinity for SHBG as well.

[crosscannan]

so if im running cyp at 400 every 5 days and am not that horney. my shbg is messed up? how long do i need to take mast p or proviron for? I have never heard of shbg- this answers many q's ive had. im new to this and i couldnt figure out for the life of me why my sex drive is low!!!! so glad i found this site.....
is this something i need to always run with my test? or just from time to time?