tren & test cyp any advice

[rampaige77]

i have 40ml 100mg tren & a bottle of test cyp 300 with nolvadex & clomid on the way i got the test (luckly) to run low with the tren to stave off any "Tren issues" im 35 yrs old 18% BF 240 lbs been lifting since i was 18 used gear off n on since 24 i have an idea in my mind on how i would run this but was hoping for a lil feedback on how others would maybe get new ideas my goal is to gain strength n loose fat n im living on milk, beans, eggs , turkey bacon n tuna ect ect so im not injesting crap i dont wanna be show ready i just wanna loose fat n get some more size n strength. thanks for any input

[gixxerboy1]

i would drop some bf. Milk isnt good for loosing weight. why dont you post your cycle idea and your diet

[rampaige77]

i dont have it down to minute details i just cut fat n most sugars out (excluding milk) im not trying to get shreaded i wanna keed my size n strength but burn off the extra crap around my waist ive added in the past 2-3 months so i eat 4 7oz cans of tuna 4 32 oz glasses of milk 4-8 slices of turkey bacon a day depending how hungry i am thats in the am & 12 eggs or so im also perscribed adderol 2 doses or 20 mg tabs & im taking 120mcg clen a day , i know you guys are gonna get on me about my diet but thats about as good as i can do im an eater (HENCE MY CURRENT EXTRA 20LBS) but i wanna keep strength & size i know the milk is an issue but i like it n it helps me choke the other shit down n its an easy source of things i need without it tasting like liquid chalk i was thinking 200 mg tren EOD n 150 mg of test a week to stave off tren issues ,ive never had probs with solo tren but you guys all have me sketched out about it now so ive even ordered the pct just in case even though ive never used it im already loosing some weight , i usaly do on tren anyhow but i think clen is helping n ive been back in gym hard the sight here brought my old drive back that was lacking

[Juice Authority]

i have 40ml 100mg tren & a bottle of test cyp 300 with nolvadex & clomid on the way i got the test (luckly) to run low with the tren to stave off any "Tren issues" im 35 yrs old 18% BF 240 lbs been lifting since i was 18 used gear off n on since 24 i have an idea in my mind on how i would run this but was hoping for a lil feedback on how others would maybe get new ideas my goal is to gain strength n loose fat n im living on milk, beans, eggs , turkey bacon n tuna ect ect so im not injesting crap i dont wanna be show ready i just wanna loose fat n get some more size n strength. thanks for any input

Cyp is a finicky compound. I never believe the label claim when I see concentrations of 300mg/ml or higher. It crashes too easy. It's most likely Test E labeled as Cyp. At your BF% you might want to consider a different stack. When I was 250 pounds and 26% BF I used T3 (25mcgs/ed), var (25mgs/ed), GH (2ius/ed) and a low dose of Cyp (200mgs/wk) and Deca (150mgs/wk). Tren will negatively affect cardio. The only way I was able to drop the weight was to incorporate cardio and a lot of it with resistance training.

[rampaige77]

to be honest im a lil scared of the T-3 i know its bad ass but i just rember all the stuff i read discussing thyroid shock & whatnot my boy made the test mixed it heavy n its got alot of BA in the mix i guess to keep it from gelling up or whatever its pretty strong wether its 300 its suspect i agree with you about dosing but this is the last of it n i was lucky to get it there wont be more & i dont really wanna run tren alone now with what i have what would you suggest?

[rampaige77]

just run a strength n bulk cycle with a clean diet? n maybe some s4 n igf1 n clen to bridge

[Juice Authority]

to be honest im a lil scared of the T-3 i know its bad ass but i just rember all the stuff i read discussing thyroid shock & whatnot my boy made the test mixed it heavy n its got alot of BA in the mix i guess to keep it from gelling up or whatever its pretty strong wether its 300 its suspect i agree with you about dosing but this is the last of it n i was lucky to get it there wont be more & i dont really wanna run tren alone now with what i have what would you suggest?

You'll pin Tren but you're afraid of T3? I don't quite follow that. You barely notice the sides of T3 where the sides of Tren are very pronounced. And the thyroid is fairly resilient. It takes much longer for HPTA to recover, especially when running tren, than it does for the thyroid to bounce back from T3.

[rampaige77]

believe me id use ther stuff if i had it but at the moment im burnt so id like to run this but just the best to its uses , im totaly motivated & im not opposed to throwing down a strength n size cycle thats my MO anyways

[rampaige77]

never used it n really have no experience with it just in literature & to me it seemed risky ive used tren n fair well but i see on here T-3 is pretty common all my knowledge (except what ive been learning on here) came from the stack, anabolics series 2004, n steroids 101 & the prophiles on T-3 were risky as was what was said about DNP but i hear it discussed pretty reg on here so thats why im on to update my knowledge i been stuck in one mindset for awhile n now am branching out

[human project]

Tren is the best steroid there is for anything from bulking to cutting. How much you use depends on how it affects you. I work well with 500-525 per week. Either 100mg mon through fri or 75per day. For many this is too high. I would start at 300mg a week and increase as your gains subside. I always start off around half the mg I plan on ending. The way I look at it I'm gonna gain the same in the first few weeks either way
; I just prefer to have something to bump up to when gains start to subside after 5-6wks. I have heed of many ppl using 300-500mg of test per week and upwards of 700mg of tren with no ED or progesterone issues; me on the other hand need to use much higher doses or my dick is literally in the dirt. I personally use a gram of test per week any time I touch tren. I personally think issues caused with tren are due to a imbalance of test and prolactin. Make sure to have something to block prolactin "bromo, caber, ect there's many available any I've used work fine" and enough test and you should be g2g. If your trying to bulk up or cut all depends on diet and cardio what steroids you take are irrelevant.

[rampaige77]

Tren is the best steroid there is for anything from bulking to cutting. How much you use depends on how it affects you. I work well with 500-525 per week. Either 100mg mon through fri or 75per day. For many this is too high. I would start at 300mg a week and increase as your gains subside. I always start off around half the mg I plan on ending. The way I look at it I'm gonna gain the same in the first few weeks either way
; I just prefer to have something to bump up to when gains start to subside after 5-6wks. I have heed of many ppl using 300-500mg of test per week and upwards of 700mg of tren with no ED or progesterone issues; me on the other hand need to use much higher doses or my dick is literally in the dirt. I personally use a gram of test per week any time I touch tren. I personally think issues caused with tren are due to a imbalance of test and prolactin. Make sure to have something to block prolactin "bromo, caber, ect there's many available any I've used work fine" and enough test and you should be g2g. If your trying to bulk up or cut all depends on diet and cardio what steroids you take are irrelevant.

I have found what you say to be my experiance as well i dont use as much as youve stated but i lost 12 lbs on an anadrol only cycle but gained an inch on arms n 50 lbs on bench same with test n tren ive bulked & lost weight both , i was looking for some feed back cuz theres alot of knowledgable guys on here & was wondering if theres a better way to dose it or cycle it than what i had in mind maybe i run to low a dose or space to far apart ,its why im always asking ..

thanks for your input

[Juice Authority]

Tren is the best steroid there is for anything from bulking to cutting. How much you use depends on how it affects you. I work well with 500-525 per week. Either 100mg mon through fri or 75per day. For many this is too high. I would start at 300mg a week and increase as your gains subside. I always start off around half the mg I plan on ending. The way I look at it I'm gonna gain the same in the first few weeks either way
; I just prefer to have something to bump up to when gains start to subside after 5-6wks. I have heed of many ppl using 300-500mg of test per week and upwards of 700mg of tren with no ED or progesterone issues; me on the other hand need to use much higher doses or my dick is literally in the dirt. I personally use a gram of test per week any time I touch tren. I personally think issues caused with tren are due to a imbalance of test and prolactin. Make sure to have something to block prolactin "bromo, caber, ect there's many available any I've used work fine" and enough test and you should be g2g. If your trying to bulk up or cut all depends on diet and cardio what steroids you take are irrelevant.

I'll be running tren higher than test on the next cycle for sure. I had reversed it the last couple weeks of running the tren, and that's when I noticed the best results. Next time, it will be 400mgs of Cyp and 800mgs of Tren e/wk until I say "uncle". Thing is I like to switch up my routines. In the summertime, I'm endurance focused. Tren and cardio are like oil and vinegar.

[swm1972]

Cyp is a finicky compound. I never believe the label claim when I see concentrations of 300mg/ml or higher. It crashes too easy. It's most likely Test E labeled as Cyp. At your BF% you might want to consider a different stack. When I was 250 pounds and 26% BF I used T3 (25mcgs/ed), var (25mgs/ed), GH (2ius/ed) and a low dose of Cyp (200mgs/wk) and Deca (150mgs/wk). Tren will negatively affect cardio. The only way I was able to drop the weight was to incorporate cardio and a lot of it with resistance training.

I agree. I brew it at 200 personally for that very reason.

[human project]

I'll be running tren higher than test on the next cycle for sure. I had reversed it the last couple weeks of running the tren, and that's when I noticed the best results. Next time, it will be 400mgs of Cyp and 800mgs of Tren e/wk until I say "uncle". Thing is I like to switch up my routines. In the summertime, I'm endurance focused. Tren and cardio are like oil and vinegar.

Keep us posted on your 800mg tren cycle. If you don't drowned in your own fluid you'll be looking nasty bro. I get so much fluid in my lungs no matter what dose i run but anytime I go over 525 it gets so bad I can't even sleep flat. Anyone have any remedies?? I've tried musinex and even tried antibiotics for pneumonia with no help. I fully agree with you on the tren and cardio being miserable; it has made me wonder when cutting maybe use as low of a dose as possible to fully perform intense interval cardio. "which I believe hands down is the very best for cutting" HIT training "High Intensity Training" not only helps me burn way more fat but I feel helps me save muscle when cutting. I know this may sound weird but I've mentioned this before and many others feel the same way. Also i feel it helps my overall vascularity and hardness. Just my 2c

[Juice Authority]

Keep us posted on your 800mg tren cycle. If you don't drowned in your own fluid you'll be looking nasty bro. I get so much fluid in my lungs no matter what dose i run but anytime I go over 525 it gets so bad I can't even sleep flat. Anyone have any remedies?? I've tried musinex and even tried antibiotics for pneumonia with no help. I fully agree with you on the tren and cardio being miserable; it has made me wonder when cutting maybe use as low of a dose as possible to fully perform intense interval cardio. "which I believe hands down is the very best for cutting" HIT training "High Intensity Training" not only helps me burn way more fat but I feel helps me save muscle when cutting. I know this may sound weird but I've mentioned this before and many others feel the same way. Also i feel it helps my overall vascularity and hardness. Just my 2c

Tren has EQ beat by a long shot in terms of vascularity. I manage the fluid issue with a generic form a Mucinex I buy at Costco on the cheap. Kirkland makes it. You can go broke on Mucinex. That shit ain't cheap.

[human project]

Tren has EQ beat by a long shot in terms of vascularity. I manage the fluid issue with a generic form a Mucinex I buy at Costco on the cheap. Kirkland makes it. You can go broke on Mucinex. That shit ain't cheap.

I fully agree on tren having eq beat in every aspect out side of using is for lube. And that's only because tren smells weird. For me; Eq is a f'en waste of time, overall mg, and money. IMHO Vascularity has very little to do with what you take it's just a reflection of your body fat %. Sure some stuff pumps your veins up a bit but in reality when your completely shredded and dry your veins look about the same. Especially when your taking water pills and carb loading. I always wonder where everyone got the idea of EQ being this amazing compound for Vascularity because it never really did anything for me. Do you find any benefit to adding EQ for cutting Juice authority? I ask because I constantly hear people raving about it and gave up on it after my first couple cycles.

[rampaige77]

800mg tren!!!! Damn im over here tripping on 200mg EOD & 150mg cyp EW & your banging 800mg n 400mg man maybe i need to bump the tren up a butthair

[Juice Authority]

I fully agree on tren having eq beat in every aspect out side of using is for lube. And that's only because tren smells weird. For me; Eq is a f'en waste of time, overall mg, and money. IMHO Vascularity has very little to do with what you take it's just a reflection of your body fat %. Sure some stuff pumps your veins up a bit but in reality when your completely shredded and dry your veins look about the same. Especially when your taking water pills and carb loading. I always wonder where everyone got the idea of EQ being this amazing compound for Vascularity because it never really did anything for me. Do you find any benefit to adding EQ for cutting Juice authority? I ask because I constantly hear people raving about it and gave up on it after my first couple cycles.

I like EQ in higher doses (900-1,200mgs/wk) for an 8-10 week run. I stay lean year-round. EQ is great for collagen synthesis and joint lube to your point. I'll take EQ over Deca any day for joint lube. My favorite stack is Test E/EQ/Tren E - 300/300/200 - eod. I ran that for 8 weeks, dropped the tren and increased the Test and EQ to 1,200/1,200 for the next few weeks. After that, I switched over the Cyp and Primo (600/800) and will tun that for 16 weeks. I'm in week 4 of that now. Next time, I'll run the Test E and EQ for the first 8-10 weeks then add the Tren. After dropping the Tren my cycle went to shit even at the higher dose of Test and EQ. Nothing replaces tren and when you drop it there's a big void in your cycle.

[human project]

I like EQ in higher doses (900-1,200mgs/wk) for an 8-10 week run. I stay lean year-round. EQ is great for collagen synthesis and joint lube to your point. I'll take EQ over Deca any day for joint lube. My favorite stack is Test E/EQ/Tren E - 300/300/200 - eod. I ran that for 8 weeks, dropped the tren and increased the Test and EQ to 1,200/1,200 for the next few weeks. After that, I switched over the Cyp and Primo (600/800) and will tun that for 16 weeks. I'm in week 4 of that now. Next time, I'll run the Test E and EQ for the first 8-10 weeks then add the Tren. After dropping the Tren my cycle went to shit even at the higher dose of Test and EQ. Nothing replaces tren and when you drop it there's a big void in your cycle.

I've never tried running EQ that high usually around 800mg per week that may be why it had no effect on me. With the difference in test from 800 to 1,200 I can defiantly see it working much better at similar doses. If I'm very susceptible to prolactin induced gyno do you think there would be any issues running high tren and eq. I thought I've herd something about prolactin issues being increased by eq obviously there an issue for tren but is gyno worse adding EQ? Do you ever have any of these issues? On the last part you stated about pulling the tren I'm actually just now doing the same thing. I just dropped my tren also; was at 700mg tren 900mg test 50mg dbol 50mg anadrol 50mg provirone and now I've bumped my test up to 1250-1500mg per week and completely dropped the orals and the tren. Just to note i also added ghrp 2 cjc and hgh frag but other then that i only switched my diet up a little adding 100g of carbs per day from 400 to 500 and raised my protein from 450 to 500 and I gained 11lbs in the past three weeks. Starting slin in the morning so hopefully I see 270 soon!!!!!!! Wish me luck

[Juice Authority]

I've never tried running EQ that high usually around 800mg per week that may be why it had no effect on me. With the difference in test from 800 to 1,200 I can defiantly see it working much better at similar doses. If I'm very susceptible to prolactin induced gyno do you think there would be any issues running high tren and eq. I thought I've herd something about prolactin issues being increased by eq obviously there an issue for tren but is gyno worse adding EQ? Do you ever have any of these issues? On the last part you stated about pulling the tren I'm actually just now doing the same thing. I just dropped my tren also; was at 700mg tren 900mg test 50mg dbol 50mg anadrol 50mg provirone and now I've bumped my test up to 1250-1500mg per week and completely dropped the orals and the tren. Just to note i also added ghrp 2 cjc and hgh frag but other then that i only switched my diet up a little adding 100g of carbs per day from 400 to 500 and raised my protein from 450 to 500 and I gained 11lbs in the past three weeks. Starting slin in the morning so hopefully I see 270 soon!!!!!!! Wish me luck

Prolactin is very well managed with caber. EQ won't aggravate prolactin levels or gyno. It's doesn't aromatize in estrogen and it's not progesteronic like Deca. I don't see how EQ would increase prolactin levels. Just be mindful of SHBG when you run over 1gm of Test. I'm getting more out of my cycle now at 400mgs than I was at 1,200mgs/wk. Reason being, I ran Mast P at 100mgs for 10 days straight. SHBG was the culprit. Now things seem to be more in-balanced (free test to total test). Test in a bound state is inactive.