I had some hypertension. I got put on a beta blocker Bystolic 5mg. My BP is like 117/78 now so I'm wondering what's the best Test that I can take and wouldn't have any serious problems?
I had some hypertension. I got put on a beta blocker Bystolic 5mg. My BP is like 117/78 now so I'm wondering what's the best Test that I can take and wouldn't have any serious problems?
Also if anyone else had problems with BP that has done a cycle ok without problems?
If your BP is that low, than you are at a good starting point. Track your BP to make sure it doesn't spike. Use an AI since high E2 can result in high BP. You should use an AI regardless, but especially don't skip it if you are worried about your blood pressure.
How old are you? Can you give us more stats about yourself? This will give us more of an idea of your bp issue. Thanks.
I'm 30... 5"9 210 lean...I think it was mainly stress induced high blood pressure...but I've gotten it under control now...I'm still on the Bystolic 5mg...I've take test Enanthate before and deca
Test is test. The ester doesn't change the parent compound nor it's effects on the human body at all. I've heard people refer to water retention being less on prop and this is actually a misunderstanding of the nature of the way esterification works. The longer the ester chain the more fat and less water soluble the compound becomes. That's it. There are no more magical qualities beyond that. This only affects the solubility of these compounds as the are made into an injectable compound. That's why prop can only hold at around 100mg/ml while cyp is 200ish and enth 250. It has nothing to do with you bodies ability to utilize the substance. All ester chains are composed primarily of carbon. The human body cleaves these carbon chains off in a predictable manner regardless of ester or parent compound.
I'm also in the school that doesn't believe in the necessity of an AI at all times throughout your cycle. Estrogen suppression can cause more problems then running slightly elevated concentrations by far. First estrogen suppression causes cholesterol problems in users of these drugs. It lowers the good, elevates bad. Second estrogen suppression often leads to lethargy in many users. I'd be willing to bet the vast majority of users that complain of test flu are actually suffering from low estrogen because they follow recommendations to run an AI from the start. Last, estrogen is an important component in the hormonal soup that makes every human body work. Reducing it beyond a certain level can interfere with gains associated with a steroid cycle. I've seen studies that suggest significant reductions (below standard baselines) can significantly suppress HGH excretion.
Now I'm not saying to never run an AI. But a person that is tuned into their body as most of us are can easily recognize the first signs of elevated estrogen with the nipple sensitivity and itchiness. Even with that I would only run an AI as long as necessary to alleviate the issues.
Estrogen in high levels can be carcinogenic. As a man you aren't going to achieve these elevated levels without noticing symptoms. When you notice symptoms you respond.
You don't need an AI for your blood pressure while running a cycle. You just need to maintain a healthy diet and watch your sodium intake. The vast majority of water retention (which directly affects blood pressure) occurring in the human body is linked to sodium intake. Sodium restrictions are often recommended by doctors for those suffering from water retention, blood pressure issues, congestive heart failure, pneumonia, etc.
Last edited by swm1972; 07-18-2012 at 08:04 AM.
hey bro old school is fine but it's not right. E2 is supressive just like test. So if you want the fastest recovery it's best to control estrogen right from the start.
Recovery doesn't happen during cycle. It happens post cycle. Adex destroys e2 in the matter of days. If recovery is your concern you can jump on at the end. I can post more studies illustrating the negative nature of excessively suppressed estrogen. I'm really not making this up.Originally Posted by Brohim
If nothing else cholesterol alone is enough reason not to blindly take an AI. These products screw with your lipids as bad as many oral steroids do. I can prove that too. Want study links? I'll dig them up if you would like to research it yourself.
Do you find that using an AI helps with your hypertension? When mine spiked on Prop, you guys told me to run an AI to get the estro incheck. I didnt and just took your advice to come off it totally. Now if you were in my shoes, would you run an AI while on cycle to prevent this? Iwasnt retaining water, at all. Or at least it didnt look like it a bit. I got very lean and defined muscles. My BP med is Losartin taken every day and I have had it under control for 15 years until the cycle I was on. Thank you!
Yea I love Bystolic...im gonna try cyp and deca...thanks
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