Dr Crisler wrongly convicted of Domestic Assault.

[vinceproduction]

Hey guys, I'm not sure where I should post this, but since he is a respected leader in the HRT field, and has helped tons of us, I think this is the appropriate place. Dr. Crisler has been wrongly convicted of Domestic Assault! At Dr. Crisler's direction, I produced a 30 minute documentary describing the case, and details. There is so much wrong with this case it's horrible! Lots of lies, coverups, and corruption. It's up on You Tube, if you search there under Dr. Crisler war on men, you should be able to find it. I would post the link, but I don't want to break the forum rules. If given the ok, I will post the link. Take a look and leave a comment or word of encouragement and spread the word, as this is a growing problem facing men lately!


VinnieTRT

[Times Roman]

wrongly convicted?

how do YOU know this?

Do not confuse your appreciation/admiration for this bloke, with what he does in his own personal life.

You could be right. But you could be wrong.

[vinceproduction]

I hear you, but it's all in the court documents, and photos. We also have the police dash am and audio which contradicts the court testimony.

[bass]

i think you can post the link, its not advertising, its simply news.

[vinceproduction]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZvm-AS_VrU

Good deal, but again, if admin has a problem with this link, I will gladly remove it. I don't want to break any rules. Just want to get his story out. Thanks Bass, BTW Crazy video from you!

[JohnnyVegas]

Compelling story. The video is insanely one sided and lacking in credibility, but presents one side of an interesting story and possible problem.

Are you worried that you have put a video on YouTube that will come up when someone searches for Crisler? I assume you want to cause some kind of blowback that will result in him being set free and an investigation into local government and law enforcement? Has this been picked up by local news or anything?

[vinceproduction]

Johnny,
Well yeah it is his side of the story, so i guess it would be one sided. I'll tell you, after looking at all the evidence and him not being allowed to even view the dash cams until the day of the trial, things were really messed up. As for people seeing it while doing a search, no problem, he wants as many people to see it as possible. I've sent it to a few of the news agencies, but they usually won't look into anything until it goes viral.

[zaggahamma]

wow crazy

[steroid.com 1]

...where there's smoke...there's usually fire.

He did an extensive amount of court required counseling and can't be anywhere where alcohol is being served or consumed.

He's trying to clear his name for obvious reasons but there's more to this story.

I have been told by Physician's who know him that he's aggressive, loud, big ego and has a "tough guy" mentality.

He's been found guilty in a court of law and like most criminals he will plead his innocence till the cows come home.

A Domestic Violence criminal record is a bad one and I am surprised he has (or at least has for now) his license to practice medicine.

He did some jail time as well..

[BigBadWolf]

Boring and gay!!! I couldn't watch more than five minutes

[BigBadWolf]

I think I'm going to drag myself down some stairs now!!

[GotNoBlueMilk]

When I first saw his website I figured he had a big ego. That pic leaves a lot to be desired for promoting his image.

Did he plead roid rage as a defense?

[JAMIE07652]

There three sides to these types of stories , his , hers and the truth .

[xtitan1]

Guilty or not, one of the guys most recommended for his TRT protocols has now suffered a serious blow to his personal reputation. Will this hurt the cause of raising awareness for proper TRT (treating according to symptoms, worrying about estrogen balance, attention to free t instead of total t, shbg levels, etc. etc.) or not really?

[kelkel]

His methodologies will survive. His reputation, well that remains to be seen. Time will tell.

[AnabolicBoy1981]

I don't care if he did or didn't...i'm sure she was a royal bitch, probably broke his favorite CD's his stereo., threw stuff at him etc.

Yeah, he does come off as having an edge even in his seminars...but I like that. He doesn't seem like he'd take shiit from anyone. He says it like it is. I'll take a guy whose full of himself over a guy whose full of shiit any day.

There was a dentist in my area who was found guilty of selling valium on the street several years ago. He's still in practice.People forget. People don't care. Some do. Some women run backround checks using your phone number before going out with you. Some will blow you right away.

[xtitan1]

Some women run backround checks using your phone number before going out with you. Some will blow you right away.

You should write a book on philosophy using that right there as the title

[HRTstudent]

You should write a book on philosophy using that right there as the title

lol

Dr Crisler definitely has an ego, but cops lie.... Havent watched the video yet but the info presented suprised me.

[pugster]

i know nothing of U.S law but by posting this here and on youtube i dont think you are doing the guy any favours (regardless of whether hes guilty of the offence or not) , most ppl in the world will never even have heard of him and posting this on a public forum and youtube you have opened it up to the world so ppl who have never heard of him are now open to form opinions on this case -which altho im sure you have good intentions may not be whats thought by other ppl once they look into it.

[vinceproduction]

i know nothing of U.S law but by posting this here and on youtube i dont think you are doing the guy any favours (regardless of whether hes guilty of the offence or not) , most ppl in the world will never even have heard of him and posting this on a public forum and youtube you have opened it up to the world so ppl who have never heard of him are now open to form opinions on this case -which altho im sure you have good intentions may not be whats thought by other ppl once they look into it.

I didn't just do this on my own. I would never do that. Dr. Crisler had me make the video and at his direction I put it up on Youtube. He wants to accomplish a couple things with this. 1. He of course wants to clear his name and expose the corruption and misuse of the laws (specifically The Violence Against Women Act) 2. He has no problem putting himself out there so other men possibly don't have to go through this by getting the word out of what really can happen.

[kelkel]

lol

Dr Crisler definitely has an ego, but cops lie.... Havent watched the video yet but the info presented suprised me.

All people can lie. Their profession or socio-economic status doesn't make a difference, IMHO.

[bass]

unfortunately this situation with Dr. Crisler is just another setback to us TRT'ers! another negative for the media to add to testosterone.

[milky01623]

unfortunately this situation with Dr. Crisler is just another setback to us TRT'ers! another negative for the media to add to testosterone.

Bloody hell don't let them ban trt yet I'm only just getting started......

I haven't seen the vid yet but I think its already been said the truth always comes out in the end
IMHO

[steroid.com 1]

As Vince noted; it was Crisler's intention of making that video as viral as possible...he wants the world to know!

Remember, he was found guilty in a court of law and I don't think any of us here were present during those hearings.

A guilty conviction must be made beyond a reasonable doubt...

[xtitan1]

Why was he using a public defender? I would think as a doctor he would be able to afford a private attorney. This is a serious charge so one would think it would be worth the considerable fee.

[steroid.com 1]

Why was he using a public defender? I would think as a doctor he would be able to afford a private attorney. This is a serious charge so one would think it would be worth the considerable fee.

No Shit...makes you wonder doesn't it?

[SEOINAGE]

maybe he didn't take it serious enough? didn't think they had anything on him?

[APIs]

I don't know, I've generally found in life that if you are doing the right thing, events like this don't typically occur. My $0.02...

[steroid.com 1]

^^^^Yep!

[JohnnyVegas]

Why was he using a public defender? I would think as a doctor he would be able to afford a private attorney. This is a serious charge so one would think it would be worth the considerable fee.

The pictures of his house didn't make it look like he was living large. I figured he wasn't rich when I saw his website. As a designer, I thought he was a quack based on his site. It was only after hearing people here say good things about him that I changed my thinking.

[Shol'va]

sorry but the video was too damned long for me to keep interest. So I fast forwarded it. Now I'm rebel without a clue on this..lol

[HRTstudent]

I don't know, I've generally found in life that if you are doing the right thing, events like this don't typically occur. My $0.02...

You must be fortunate to have lived a fortunate life That is good, but please, I assure you bad things happen to good people. And when it comes to law and courtrooms, please do not believe this is a system based on purely justice. I'm not trying to pick at you, and I am no defending Crisler, but please please please do not believe that mistakes don't happen when it comes to law.

[Bonaparte]

IDK about that video title...
(since the type of guy who would claim that there is a "war on men" is also the type who would beat his wife...because they're at war)

You might want to try something a little more PC unless you just want the support of men who don't like women.

[bass]

You must be fortunate to have lived a fortunate life That is good, but please, I assure you bad things happen to good people. And when it comes to law and courtrooms, please do not believe this is a system based on purely justice. I'm not trying to pick at you, and I am no defending Crisler, but please please please do not believe that mistakes don't happen when it comes to law.

HRT, mistakes do happen, but these days its rare! like GDevine said, Innocent until proven guilty. most likely today a guilty will walk than an Innocent get convicted.

[vinceproduction]

HRT, mistakes do happen, but these days its rare! like GDevine said, Innocent until proven guilty. most likely today a guilty will walk than an Innocent get convicted.

I don't know Bass, I used to feel that way, but since I got involved with dr Crisler's case, I've done a lot of research and I'm finding hundreds of cases in which men are falsely accused and/or convicted. Ever since the violence against women act of 94 by Joe Biden, it is incredibly easy for a woman to make false accusations or exaggerate the facts even, ending up really screwing a man's life up. They are allowed and in fact encouraged to arrest a man on the words of a woman, without any evidence at all. It's all to make up for how hard it was for a woman that has actually been abused. It just goes so far over the line it's unjust and should be illegal.

[bass]

good point Vince! in California a man is guilty until proven innocent when accused by women! i look at Michael Tyson case, i think he was set up. but also look at OJ Simpson case where a clearly guilty criminal got away! hard to tell from he said she said!

[vinceproduction]

True. Since none of us were there at the time of the incident, the second best way to know the actual truth is to look at concrete evidence rather than natural sympathy (which always plays to the woman). In his case the public defender (which obviously now he'd probably have gone with a lawyer of his own) chose not to bring up any of the hard evidence he had on his side. That's going to change with his new lawyer that's for sure. I'm working on a video this weekend that documents a very concrete piece of medical evidence. (and YES this one will be shorter lol)
All in all I think talking about this stuff can only help us men to be careful. Until the laws are changed, we are at a distinct legal disadvantage. One more way society is taking the worth and dignity of men away.

[APIs]

You must be fortunate to have lived a fortunate life That is good, but please, I assure you bad things happen to good people. And when it comes to law and courtrooms, please do not believe this is a system based on purely justice. I'm not trying to pick at you, and I am no defending Crisler, but please please please do not believe that mistakes don't happen when it comes to law.

Yes I've had a very fortunate life, but have also seen my share of Judges & Courtrooms growing up is all. And from my experience, I can tell you that to be in this position, Dr. Crisler's side of the street in this whole mess is probably far from being clean. Doing the right thing has a lot to do with how you conduct yourself & the people you choose to associate with. Maybe he's innocent of the actual charges made by this lady, but IMO he's likey guilty of making the poor life-choices that put him in this position. Again, it's unlikely this would have happened if he was "truly" doing the right thing on a continuous basis. We all play a role in our own misery…

[xtitan1]

That's some Tony Robbins stuff right there...

[Bonaparte]

True. Since none of us were there at the time of the incident, the second best way to know the actual truth is to look at concrete evidence rather than natural sympathy (which always plays to the woman). In his case the public defender (which obviously now he'd probably have gone with a lawyer of his own) chose not to bring up any of the hard evidence he had on his side. That's going to change with his new lawyer that's for sure. I'm working on a video this weekend that documents a very concrete piece of medical evidence. (and YES this one will be shorter lol)
All in all I think talking about this stuff can only help us men to be careful. Until the laws are changed, we are at a distinct legal disadvantage. One more way society is taking the worth and dignity of men away.

Care to elaborate? You really feel that "society" is taking away our worth and dignity by making it hard for us to beat women and get away with it? I highly doubt that women who are treated kindly and fairly are just going out and making up false charges just because they can (or because society is encouraging them to).
You do realize that this is the same paranoid argument used by every hate group (white supremacists, people who hate immigrants, etc), right?
You don't have to turn every issue like this into a conspiracy involving "the others" threatening your existence, culminating in a call to arms.