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    Anavar... Doing it right?

    I am taking Var for 6wks at 80mg a day. I am taking 40mg at 8am then again, 40mg at 5pm. And milk thistle before bed. Ofcourse along with proper diet and lifting.

    >Do I have to take Var on an empty stomach?
    >Do I have to split up the dosage or would 80mg at once be best early evening before my workout?
    >If I notice slight testicular attrophy should I elicit Nolvadex immediately or at the end of the 6wks?

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    1) You running test with it? If not Its shutting you down at that dose Id guess and yes you should be running test with it.

    2) You can split it up into two doses or one. Most will say two times a day.

    3) Yes PCT should be ran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warhog View Post
    I am taking Var for 6wks at 80mg a day. I am taking 40mg at 8am then again, 40mg at 5pm. And milk thistle before bed. Ofcourse along with proper diet and lifting.

    >Do I have to take Var on an empty stomach? NO
    >Do I have to split up the dosage or would 80mg at once be best early evening before my workout? NO - either or. I've taken both ways and cannot tell the difference
    >If I notice slight testicular attrophy should I elicit Nolvadex immediately or at the end of the 6wks? Nolva will not help. You are referring to HCG, and you take it during cycle

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    at 80mg a day, more likely than not your test production will partially shut down. keep an eye out and see if you lose your libido (desire for sex). if this begins to wane, pretty good clue you are not maintaining your test levels. it would be advisable to run a low level of test to maintain levels.

    up to you

    did a reread, and the comment about testicular atrophy, i thought you were thinking of ways to prevent. but you could also be thinking of pct. pct is ran post cycle. with var, the very next day you begin.
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    Not running test so this makes sense. I'll take care of that. I've taken D-bol before without test and no shut down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    at 80mg a day, more likely than not your test production will partially shut down. keep an eye out and see if you lose your libido (desire for sex). if this begins to wane, pretty good clue you are not maintaining your test levels. it would be advisable to run a low level of test to maintain levels.

    up to you

    did a reread, and the comment about testicular atrophy, i thought you were thinking of ways to prevent. but you could also be thinking of pct. pct is ran post cycle. with var, the very next day you begin.
    Got it. Thanks.

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    With any oral, i like to split dosages thru the day. Just the way i've always done it.

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    I have never been able to tell a difference in taking it once or twice a day. Same with Dbol even though it has a very short half-life.

    There are several studies that have shown taking oral steroids on an empty stomach to be best. With food does decrease how much of the hormone is actually absorbed. How big of a difference does it make? I'm not sure but the bioavailability does decrease with food.

    At your dose, your testosterone levels won't be totally suppressed. However, total serum levels will be down by at least 50%...probably closer to 65%. That's enough to put most men in a state of low testosterone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warhog View Post
    Not running test so this makes sense. I'll take care of that. I've taken D-bol before without test and no shut down.
    no disrespect mate. but how would you know if you were shut down or not? dbol DOES shut you down

    ...so i'm curious how you know that?

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    IDK im going to play more with anavar next cycle. I think if its 60mgs or less to take it all at once. 60mgs or more maybe split it. Im running 100mgs next cycle. Will see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    no disrespect mate. but how would you know if you were shut down or not? dbol DOES shut you down

    ...so i'm curious how you know that?
    Most guy base being shut down on whether their pecker still works or not. If it does, they assume everything is still the same. Obviously, low test levels can have many negative effects and sometimes you can get away with a functioning ding dong even with low levels...usually not forever though. Plus, you have to consider, in this case, how much Dbol he was taking. More than likely he was still producing a fair amount of testosterone since Dbol is 100% suppressive like nandrolone. Granted, odds were also strong his levels were far below optimal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    no disrespect mate. but how would you know if you were shut down or not? dbol DOES shut you down

    ...so i'm curious how you know that?
    No disrespect taken. Learning here. I am assuming I know what shut down is and probably do not. I notice that my libido is down in comparison to what I remember from Dbol in addition to what I thought was testicular atrophy. Again, I have never run a true cycle with test so I will be learning about and experiencing sides for the first time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalject View Post
    Most guy base being shut down on whether their pecker still works or not. If it does, they assume everything is still the same. Obviously, low test levels can have many negative effects and sometimes you can get away with a functioning ding dong even with low levels...usually not forever though. Plus, you have to consider, in this case, how much Dbol he was taking. More than likely he was still producing a fair amount of testosterone since Dbol is 100% suppressive like nandrolone. Granted, odds were also strong his levels were far below optimal.
    Pecker works. Just noticing the boys are much less full. Is this due to what you were mentioning about serum levels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by warhog View Post
    No disrespect taken. Learning here. I am assuming I know what shut down is and probably do not. I notice that my libido is down in comparison to what I remember from Dbol in addition to what I thought was testicular atrophy. Again, I have never run a true cycle with test so I will be learning about and experiencing sides for the first time.
    safe to assume that while running dbol you are shut down. low libido is only a clue, but you can be shut down and still have normal libido. it effects everyone differently. only real way to know if shut down is through blood testing.

    Peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-dogg View Post
    IDK im going to play more with anavar next cycle. I think if its 60mgs or less to take it all at once. 60mgs or more maybe split it. Im running 100mgs next cycle. Will see.
    Yeah, I am going to play around with it too t-dogg. My next cycle is going to be a 52 week, 100mgs ED Var cycle! Joking of course, but it is an amazing compound. I am having more pain relief on it than I have had with a Prednisone dose pack. I didnt think that was going to happen, but it has by far been the best quality about var for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warmouth View Post
    Yeah, I am going to play around with it too t-dogg. My next cycle is going to be a 52 week, 100mgs ED Var cycle! Joking of course, but it is an amazing compound. I am having more pain relief on it than I have had with a Prednisone dose pack. I didnt think that was going to happen, but it has by far been the best quality about var for me.
    Sounds a bit much to me. I don't know what your liver would have to say about that! LOL

    That's very interesting to hear about the pain relief. Might be tempted to test that out some time.

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    I thought we were scientists???

    When did everyone here get so touchy feely?

    As with most things, the more information you have the better off you are, and gear is no different. You don't have to FEEL everything, you sound like chicks!

    Most drugs are hard at work fighting, suppressing, treating, and curing without the slightest overt effect (feeling).

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    Consequently, taking Var twice daily in accord with said half-life promotes OPTIMAL effect/benefit/impact PERIOD!

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    i gave up trying to devide dosages for me and me alone i find all at once in the morning is better. not sure what role a low dosage even plays in the blood stream

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    if i was running 100mg+ ED then i would feel more confident on the blood and lipid profiles on a dosage that was split. but at a low dose seems like i could be wasting my money splitting it while im on high amounts of other aas.
    Last edited by mockery; 08-22-2012 at 03:07 PM.

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    Hey, I'm basically new to any kind of stacking. I've been working out for 15+ years so I have a sturdy foundation in the gym. Stats: 5'9 215lbs.
    Right now I'm taking 300 test, 1000 hcg, and I'm fixing to start taking 50 anavar starting tomorrow. I have 10 100mcg vials of igf-1 long r3. When and if should I encorporate this into my stack? I have basically no knowledge of any of this. Everything I'm doing now is all from the advice of the guy selling me gear. Help Please!

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    Like magic32 said var has a half-life. I ran 50mg in the morning and 50mg in the evening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soonersnblood80
    Hey, I'm basically new to any kind of stacking. I've been working out for 15+ years so I have a sturdy foundation in the gym. Stats: 5'9 215lbs.
    Right now I'm taking 300 test, 1000 hcg, and I'm fixing to start taking 50 anavar starting tomorrow. I have 10 100mcg vials of igf-1 long r3. When and if should I encorporate this into my stack? I have basically no knowledge of any of this. Everything I'm doing now is all from the advice of the guy selling me gear. Help Please!
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