TEST / ANAVAR Cycle *NEED ADVICE*

[vomariv]

I'm a 25 year old male with a height of 6"0 and a body weight of 180lbs. I'm looking to do my first REAL cycle. So here's a little about me. I started a cycle of only DBOL when I was a sophmore in high school for about 8 weeks until i started experiencing pain in my nipples so I stopped. Yeah I know I was a moron that took advice from one. I didn't ever do a PCT either.

So now so many years later I'm looking to do my first real cycle and I'm thinking of doing TEST at 400mg/week and ANAVAR at 30mg/day. I don't want to do the high end of things just to be on the safe side and my biggest fear is getting gyno because I experienced it slightly when on the DBOL when I was younger. I'm pretty lean I just want to be ripped and put some size on, maybe around 10-12lbs. I feel like an 8 week cycle of the TEST and VAR will do me justice. As far as diet goes I eat clean all day, everythings whole wheat, egg whites, grilled chicken, etc. I have my protein and everything down. I'm an exercise physiologist by the way.

So my next concern is a PCT. I have NO idea about a proper PCT. I want to take something during so I don't experience any side effects from the estrogen increase, and as well something after. I have some AROMASIN, and I was thinking of taking that at 25mg/daily. Any suggestions? I also want to take a PCT so should I take CLOMIDS/NOLVADEX or both? When do I also start the PCT and what are the dosages?

Sorry for all the questions but I'd like to do everything properly, so if you could guide me as if I were a dummy I'd appreciate it, with the dosages and what to take.

I can also get my hands on IPAMORELIN and OSTARINE, so for my first cycle would either of these be a better choice then the TEST/VAR? Please let me know what you guys think, it'd be greatly appreciated, and my main concern is doing my cycle safely and not getting gyno.

[Razor]

Stay away from OSTARINE and S-4, SARMS SUCK

Stick to the real thing

Forget about IPAMORELIN

[vomariv]

Thanks, how would you run a VAR/TEST cycle with PCT? As far as dosages go? Should I take something like AROMASIN during?

[Razor]

Pin Monday morning and Thursday night
1-12 Test E 400mg/w 200mg/Monday 200mg/Thursday
6-12 Anavar 100mg ED (50mg minimum imo, 100mg if your gonna run it right...so run it right
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD (adjust and hone in accordingly, any nipple sensitivity adjust more or less on how you feel)
HCG 250iu twice a week, same day pin test (not a must, hard to get, but if you can get it, use it)

start pct two weeks after last pin of test

Dosaages are split up into weeks and thats the dose everyday for that week / / / /
nolvadex 40/40/20/20
Torem 120/120/60/60/60/60

you are running test e or cyp or depo right?

dont run 25mg of aromasin ED, clomid is old school, nova and torem way better
forget about SARMS and IPAMORELIN

eat, sleep, train hard. you should be good to go

good luck
semper fi

[vomariv]

So PCT for nolvadex runs you 4 weeks, and torem runs you 7?

Also what does the ED and E3D mean?

The eat, sleep, and training is cake

[Razor]

So PCT for nolvadex runs you 4 weeks, and torem runs you 7?

Also what does the ED and E3D mean?

The eat, sleep, and training is cake

You can run the torem for 6 weeks, no need for 7.

ED (Every Day)
EOD (Every other Day)
E3D (Every Third Day)

better not be eating cake

[vomariv]

Lol, no way, thanks I really appreciate the advice

[Razor]

IM running this exact same cycle in a month cept im doing var for 8 weeks 4 weeks at 50mg and 4 weeks at 100mg


you should be good to go, I would either run the var at 50mg or not run it at all

[vomariv]

And you're doing the HCG instead of the AROMASIN I'm guessing?

[ppwc1985]

Razor just wondering why amomasin 12.5e3d, I take that Ed I thought life was 27 hrs.

[fontazya]

stick to just test.. u will gain well with that.. anavar at 30mg/day will just be a waste of money u wont see much at all

[Razor]

Razor just wondering why amomasin 12.5e3d, I take that Ed I thought life was 27 hrs.

Shhit man with all the ED EOD & E3D's I was throwing around i missed one
Fixed
Sorry

[Razor]

stick to just test.. u will gain well with that.. anavar at 30mg/day will just be a waste of money u wont see much at all

yup hes right, like i said, if your not going to run at least 50mg I would not run it like i said.

Anavar is non aromatizing and armosin is very strong and effective and test is a clean drug. I doubt you will have any problems with gyno with aromasin.

keep your bf% down and stay on the AI and you should have no problems.

[Razor]

And you're doing the HCG instead of the AROMASIN I'm guessing? I can get HCG from a site called Gen-ex or something.

cant discuss sources...but no its not one or the other its both if possible..but you always run aromasin regardless if you have HCG or not.

[ppwc1985]

Yea I started my cycle with var at 50mg Ed not worth it till I upped it to 100mg Ed split in two doses seen big improvement

[Razor]

Yea I started my cycle with var at 50mg Ed not worth it till I upped it to 100mg Ed split in two doses seen big improvement

Fck well thanks I ll run 100mg the whole 8 weeks then instead of 4 @50 & 4@100mg! Cheers

Would you ever go up to 150mg ED?

[ppwc1985]

I don't razor, I can't say I'm the most ex with it. I read the profile here for var and it said its a waste to run it at less than 100mg Ed so I my cycle that's what worked the best. Idk about running it higher.

[Razor]

I don't razor, I can't say I'm the most ex with it. I read the profile here for var and it said its a waste to run it at less than 100mg Ed so I my cycle that's what worked the best. Idk about running it higher.

Cool sounds good to me ill run it for 100mg the whole 8 weeks..looking forward too it. ever run tbol or superdrol?

[stpete]

Test is more than sufficient for first cycle. Out of curiousity, what test?
Clomid-100/50/50/25
Nolva-40/40/20/20

[songdog]

Bro another thing that is important.KNOWLEDGE you really need to brush up on yours.Read the stickys know wat you are putting into your body.Learn about AIs and gyno and how to reverse it.These are just a few of the things you need to know to run aas safely.

[Brohim]

Also remember Estrogen shuts you down just like Test. So make sure your AI is gtg BEFORE you start your cycle... If you can. Take Aromasin from the start to control E2, don't let it get out of hand.


Test/Var is the perfect stack IMO. Control E2 and take HCG and you can rebound quickly from the Test.. Var is very mild yet great affects on hardening and strength; will strength your ligaments as Test alone has been shown to weaken them. It is very syngergistic with Test (as little as 40mg will work if it's legit Var, 40-60 is recommened stacked, 75mg alone) Take some creatine while on cycle as well as TUDCA for liver protection.

I would do it just as Razor laid it out...great writeup.

[Brohim]

Fck well thanks I ll run 100mg the whole 8 weeks then instead of 4 @50 & 4@100mg! Cheers

Would you ever go up to 150mg ED?

There is a point where more does not equal better. IMO with var it is at 75mg to 100mg. Sweet spot is 75mg for me. Last run was a 7 weeker, did 50mg with 75mg for the 3rd and 5th week and had good results.

[vomariv]

Also remember Estrogen shuts you down just like Test. So make sure your AI is gtg BEFORE you start your cycle... If you can. Take Aromasin from the start to control E2, don't let it get out of hand.


Test/Var is the perfect stack IMO. Control E2 and take HCG and you can rebound quickly from the Test.. Var is very mild yet great affects on hardening and strength; will strength your ligaments as Test alone has been shown to weaken them. It is very syngergistic with Test (as little as 40mg will work if it's legit Var, 40-60 is recommened stacked, 75mg alone) Take some creatine while on cycle as well as TUDCA for liver protection.

I would do it just as Razor laid it out...great writeup.

What kind of creatine would you recommend? Also for the liver protection is TUDCA similar to milk thistle?

I read about a creatine called DECACOR, supposedly it's top-rated.

[Razor]

Bro another thing that is important.KNOWLEDGE you really need to brush up on yours.Read the stickys know wat you are putting into your body.Learn about AIs and gyno and how to reverse it.These are just a few of the things you need to know to run aas safely.

Here is all the info about that

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...l#.UEJsB2ie6WU

[vomariv]

Test is more than sufficient for first cycle. Out of curiousity, what test?
Clomid-100/50/50/25
Nolva-40/40/20/20

The test I'm getting is TESTOSTERONE CYPIONATE, I'm told that E and C are almost identical esters.

[vomariv]

I've had some help with my cycle thanks to Razor , but now it's coming down to dosages and what I can get my hands on. Currently have 1 vial of TEST-C, which will last me about 6-7 weeks if I do 300mg/week. Is this sufficient? Also I have 100ct 20mg tabs of ANAVAR . Given what I have, how should I cycle properly to achieve the most proficient gains.

TEST-C 300mg split into 150mg and 150mg on MON and THURS
ANAVAR 50mg every day for the whole cycle? (Also taking Creatine Mono)

AROMASIN 12.5mg EOD
HCG 250iu on MON and THURS


PCT two weeks after last TEST-C pin
Should I still start PCT even though my ANAVAR won't be finished? Or should I not extend the ANAVAR?

NOLVADEX 40/40/20/20 - 4 weeks
TOREM 120/120/60/60/60/60 - 6 weeks

Also why take two different things for PCT?

Should I be taking anything else? Such as Milk Thistle?