First time tren ace

[pur2020]

Hey guys, was deciding to start my first cycle with tren ace and was trying to figure out a decent dosage. This will be my 3rd cycle and am going to be running 600mg sust along with it. Asking around, most people say I should start with 300mg/week (100 eod). I've gotten great responses on previous questions here so I thought of runnin it by here first.

Thanks for the help

[austinite]

I understand that you've cycled in the past. But at age 21, it's probably better to stop cycling to lower the chance of longterm damage. Read this...

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.UEUC_LJlSDk

[Beefcakes]

with it being tren ace man i think running it 300 would be perfect that way if any sides are to come out they'l be easy to deal with and you can just stop taking it if things get outa hand. a tren cycle with 600mgs of sus??? dam son your gonna get beefed out

[austinite]

with it being tren ace man i think running it 300 would be perfect that way if any sides are to come out they'l be easy to deal with and you can just stop taking it if things get outa hand. a tren cycle with 600mgs of sus??? dam son your gonna get beefed out

Please don't give poor advice.

[Beefcakes]

Its better then giving none, u wont because of his age. he will do it anyways now you can help him along the way oh leave him in the dark. telling him to read some crap that im sure he already knows and guess what? he dont care at all. so like i said i "think" hes just fine. if youd like to give him some advise go ahead thats what these forums are for

[Beefcakes]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...!#.UEWCnY2PVu5


Read that itll tell yeah everything you need to kno about it

[austinite]

Its better then giving none, u wont because of his age. he will do it anyways now you can help him along the way oh leave him in the dark. telling him to read some crap that im sure he already knows and guess what? he dont care at all. so like i said i "think" hes just fine. if you'd like to give him some advise go ahead thats what these forums are for

Even if he was of appropriate age. Your advice is terrible and you should refrain from giving any more. Wait until you're experienced before you cause harm to someone.

[Beefcakes]

Then please yours is welcome!!!!

[Lunk1]

Its better then giving none, u wont because of his age. he will do it anyways now you can help him along the way oh leave him in the dark. telling him to read some crap that im sure he already knows and guess what? he dont care at all. so like i said i "think" hes just fine. if youd like to give him some advise go ahead thats what these forums are for

Surely if someone came on here and said "I am considering killing myself and I want some advise on how to do it, and if I don't get the advise I am going to do it anyhow". Then they started asking questions about anatomy and ballistics and the affects of a 12 guage round if fired into their mouths. Would you offer up solid advise on the best placement of the barrel and how to properly pull the trigger?


Beefcakes was already told he was not old enough and did not take to well to that advise. OP please look at his previous posts and cycle experience before even considering this kids advise.

[MuscleInk]

Its better then giving none, u wont because of his age. he will do it anyways now you can help him along the way oh leave him in the dark. telling him to read some crap that im sure he already knows and guess what? he dont care at all. so like i said i "think" hes just fine. if youd like to give him some advise go ahead thats what these forums are for

Just because someone decides to do something foolish doesn't mean you need to unequivocally endorse it.

A bad decision is a bad decision. All you're doing is encouraging it.

[Beefcakes]

lol okay guys lets tell them all there not old enough and its bad here is a link to why it is. and lets see how many people even listen? like there is kno way you guys can be that dumb to think telling people its bad dont do it this is why? how many people do you think even listen lol i mean come on now

[Metalject]

lol okay guys lets tell them all there not old enough and its bad here is a link to why it is. and lets see how many people even listen? like there is kno way you guys can be that dumb to think telling people its bad dont do it this is why? how many people do you think even listen lol i mean come on now

You're right, most people don't listen, and to think otherwise is foolish. I'm a prime example and can think of countless people who are the same. I started using steroids at the age of 20...I'll be 34 shortly. Actually, if you count pro hormones I started using those at age 19. Now I'm not saying that was a good idea or telling anyone else to do the same. Simply being honest about my own past. For the most part, I turned out fine. I am on TRT and don't mind that but even if I had waited till the age of 25 I probably would have ended up on TRT based on the types of cycles I did. You get into bodybuilding and often the here and now is all you can think about and often the here and now is massive and very long cycles. At the same time, I know of guys who were just like me that have far more serious issues after years of steroid abuse. It's in many ways a crapshoot.

All that said, the best thing to do is to encourage young guys to wait. Explain how the under-developed androgen system may be damaged irreversible and explain why. Explain to them that this may also happen even after the age of 25 but the odds will be far more in their favor. From there, and I have taken some heat on this board for this opinion but I still think it's the best approach, answer their direct questions about the steroids and various compounds. Don't encourage their use at such a young age but explain the ins and outs. This is how people learn. If they do decide to wait as most would agree they should, once they get to a more proper age they'll be far ahead of most individuals in their understanding and enjoy a far greater experience.

[MuscleInk]

You're right, most people don't listen, and to think otherwise is foolish. I'm a prime example and can think of countless people who are the same. I started using steroids at the age of 20...I'll be 34 shortly. Actually, if you count pro hormones I started using those at age 19. Now I'm not saying that was a good idea or telling anyone else to do the same. Simply being honest about my own past. For the most part, I turned out fine. I am on TRT and don't mind that but even if I had waited till the age of 25 I probably would have ended up on TRT based on the types of cycles I did. You get into bodybuilding and often the here and now is all you can think about and often the here and now is massive and very long cycles. At the same time, I know of guys who were just like me that have far more serious issues after years of steroid abuse. It's in many ways a crapshoot.

All that said, the best thing to do is to encourage young guys to wait. Explain how the under-developed androgen system may be damaged irreversible and explain why. Explain to them that this may also happen even after the age of 25 but the odds will be far more in their favor. From there, and I have taken some heat on this board for this opinion but I still think it's the best approach, answer their direct questions about the steroids and various compounds. Don't encourage their use at such a young age but explain the ins and outs. This is how people learn. If they do decide to wait as most would agree they should, once they get to a more proper age they'll be far ahead of most individuals in their understanding and enjoy a far greater experience.

Well said Metalject.

[panntastic]

I don't understand why people like beefcake even consider contributing to this board it does nothing but give it a bad name!

There seem to be a lot of young members giving poor advice based on "a friends" experience when there are countless Pros, Vets, and very experienced knowledgeable members here that give 100% sound advice from experience or through research.

The stickies section gives all advice needed and if there is a special question or need of some sort of advice needed ask it on the board but don't go about giving poor advice that can attribute to a younger member potentially hurting themselves with life long repercussions.

[songdog]

You got to know wat your doing.Before you can teach somebody.