Ethanate

[JimmyRustler]

Did my first cycle of Ethanate at 250mg per shot. 1 shot per week. PCT'd with HCG powder. Kept all strength gains and actually continued getting stronger. I only do Crossfit. But my strength went up 50-70 pounds across the board on lifts. Maintained my cardio still can run sub 28:00 4 mile. Starting second cycle soon. Going to be upping it to 500mg per week at 2 shots a week. I've heard mixed reviews that its not really going to do anything. But my first cycle my strength went through the roof and I still kept all my cardio. I don't know who to listen to but I'm going wwith my gut as well ad the results.

Any info? Or any idea if ill make the same gains as the first time...Put it this way. I was maxing clean and jerk around 205-215 now I'm hitting 285-305 depending on the execution of the lift.

[gixxerboy1]

What do they mean 500 won't work? Your going to need an ai for on cycle and Bette r pct

[BlueWaffle21]

You're going to have great gains from 500mg and listen to Gix!!

[JimmyRustler]

As in I wont get any stronger but my first cycle I jumped HUGE. So I tend to lean towards the irrefutable facts that I got stronger and kept it. I have nolva for AI. Recommend anything else? I have essentially whatever I need at my disposal.

[gixxerboy1]

Nolva is a serm not an ai. And yes you will see results from 500mg. The results may not be as drastic as the first time

[JimmyRustler]

Nolva for SERM my bad. Anything else I should get?

[JimmyRustler]

Is it possible to have 50% of the gains I made the first time? If I get half of the gains I did he first time I can compete for money...

[MickeyKnox]

include an ai on cycle. and run your hcg on cycle too.

how long you running this for?

[gixxerboy1]

Hard to say. But the more you advance the slower the gains come. Or we all would be huge and benching 500

[MickeyKnox]

Is it possible to have 50% of the gains I made the first time? If I get half of the gains I did he first time I can compete for money...

cant say, everyone is different. but if i was a betting man i would say yes or very close to it if your diet is on and you run it 12wks.

[gearbox]

Fix has a point about gains slow down and I believe genetics and diet play an even more important role then they already do. So gains will be up to you. Cause diet training and rest you can control

[JimmyRustler]

The problem with the HCG is the short shelf life. Its a 10 week cycle. I'm only.doing Crossfit. Very heavy Crossfit mind you. Why AI and SERM on cycle? Then wont it be less effective once I come off?

[JimmyRustler]

My diet is on point. Diet isn't an issue. I'm just worried about blocking to much estrogen.

[gixxerboy1]

The problem with the HCG is the short shelf life. Its a 10 week cycle. I'm only.doing Crossfit. Very heavy Crossfit mind you. Why AI and SERM on cycle? Then wont it be less effective once I come off?

Ai on cycle. Serm for pct

[JimmyRustler]

AI on cycle got it. So HCG for during.and post?

[MickeyKnox]

The problem with the HCG is the short shelf life. Its a 10 week cycle. I'm only.doing Crossfit. Very heavy Crossfit mind you. Why AI and SERM on cycle? Then wont it be less effective once I come off?

two bottles of 5k, run cycle 12 wks - its long ester. and no one said anything about a serm on cycle. must of misunderstood bro.

[MickeyKnox]

AI on cycle got it. So HCG for during.and post?

not post

[Lunk1]

I think since you kinda screwed up and only shot the 250mg 1x per week when it should have been split betwwen 2 injections you did not maintain as good of blood level as you could have and may honestly see MUCH better gains out of this cycle!

[JimmyRustler]

Ya must have misread. So HCG powder on cycle? Then nolva post? Buddy says all I need is HCG post. Glad Im doing my.homework...is it ok to start HCG a week into cycle?

[JimmyRustler]

How much should I split 500mg then? 4 shots a week???

[gixxerboy1]

What do you mean by hcg powder? Are mixing it with water and injecting it?

[JimmyRustler]

Yea mixing with sterile water and injecting.

[MickeyKnox]

Ya must have misread. So HCG powder on cycle? Then nolva post? Buddy says all I need is HCG post. Glad Im doing my.homework...is it ok to start HCG a week into cycle?

your buddy knows nothing.

its actually optimal the day before but if you split your shot with your test you'll be fine...but NOT IN THE SAME NEEDLE. just wanted to clarify that..

[gixxerboy1]

Ok. Never seen it refereed to as powder. Ok. So ai on cycle. Hcg. 250 iu 2x's a week ftom first week up to start of pct. Then serms

[Lunk1]

How much should I split 500mg then? 4 shots a week???

No No...2X a week is the desired amount for any dose of the Enethate ester. So 250mg on Mon and 250mg on Thurs is puuuurrrfect

[JimmyRustler]

Haha got a box o' 100. Alright so ill nab some HCG powder and just wait a week or so on starting. So inject HCG day prior to Test injection then how should I be splitting 500mg?

[gixxerboy1]

Haha got a box o' 100. Alright so ill nab some HCG powder and just wait a week or so on starting. So inject HCG day prior to Test injection then how should I be splitting 500mg?

250 2x a week. 3.5 days between injections

[JimmyRustler]

On a phone so forum lags a bit. Alright so ill just do what stated above. Good ol AI's day before injection. How much HCG. Buddy says around 12,000-14,000 IU 's ill need. What should the dosage on the HCG powder be?

[MickeyKnox]

Jimmy, when you get it all figured out the way you want it, lay it out neatly here ok?

cheers and good luck.

p.s. make sure your diet is spot on bro!

[JimmyRustler]

I'm also only 23.

[gixxerboy1]

weeks drug dose
1-12 test e 250mg injected 2x a week
1-14 a-dex(ai) .25mg eod
1-14 hcg 250iu injected 2x a week
15-18 nolva/clomid 40/40/20/20 50/50/25/25

[Lunk1]

Well you are a 25 in your profile so kudos to you for getting on over on everybody....knock youself out Jr.

[MickeyKnox]

good gawd no. you need a grand total of 6000iu if youre running it for 12 wks if your running ti for ten wks then you need 5000iu. either way it requires two bottle because the life of hcg is around 4-5wks UNLESS you cabn pick up hcg @2500iu. i cannot get this in my area so my advice is based on what i do.

weeks drug dose
1-12 test e 250mg injected 2x a week
1-14 a-dex(ai) .25mg eod
1-14 hcg 250iu injected 2x a week
15-18 nolva/clomid 40/40/20/20 50/50/25/25

you run dex and hcg into waiting period Gixx? not questioning you, just curious..

[gixxerboy1]

good gawd no. you need a grand total of 6000iu if youre running it for 12 wks if your running ti for ten wks then you need 5000iu. either way it requires two bottle because the life of hcg is around 4-5wks UNLESS you cabn pick up hcg @2500iu. i cannot get this in my area so my advice is based on what i do.




you run dex and hcg into waiting period Gixx? not questioning you, just curious..

yes i did. on trt now. So no waiting period or pct anymore

[JimmyRustler]

Haha must have mistyped. Phone is laggy like I said. Can't thank you guys enough for your help.

[MickeyKnox]

yes i did. on trt now. So no waiting period or pct anymore

10-4!

[JimmyRustler]

Shelf life of Test if I wait a week won't be that impacted right?

[austinite]

good gawd no. you need a grand total of 6000iu if youre running it for 12 wks if your running ti for ten wks then you need 5000iu. either way it requires two bottle because the life of hcg is around 4-5wks UNLESS you cabn pick up hcg @2500iu. i cannot get this in my area so my advice is based on what i do.




you run dex and hcg into waiting period Gixx? not questioning you, just curious..

I do this as well. Adex and HCG from 1st to last pin.

[MickeyKnox]

Shelf life of Test if I wait a week won't be that impacted right?

thats right.

[JimmyRustler]

Not trying to be an idiot but adex is arimidex right?