Cycle Critique....

[GymHero]

This will be my 3rd cycle. I have only used short esters in my previous cycles and want to mix it up this time. I have some Prop and NPP left from my previous cycle and wondered why not just frontload the test/deca until the longer esters kick in? Is there anything wrong with the layout I have below? I also have dbol/Abombs. I have never ran either. I heard abombs can suppress your appetite and thats the last thing i want right now. I want to avoid bloat and i know i will retain with these but doesnt abombs make you hold more? I could throw dbol or the abombs in for the first 4 weeks?



Critique -

Wk 1-4 Test Prop 150mg EOD
WK 1-4 NPP 100mg EOD
Wk 1-16 Test Enth 750mg WK
WK 1-14 Deca 600mg WK
WK 10-16 Winny 100mg ED
Aromasin on hand

My goal from this cycle is to gain a lot of mass and strength. I want to add winny in at the end to harden me up and solidify my gains. I also had no problems with joint pain while running it in the past. Although I was also taking NPP which im sure helped.

Stats -
Age -24
Height - 6"1
Weight - 217
BF % - 9%
Diet - Im happy with it

Previous Cycles -
Test Prop 150mg EOD 8 weeks. Pct Nolva/Clomid
Test Prop 150mg EOD 10 weeks, NPP 100mg EOD 8 weeks, Winny 50mg ED WK 4-8. Same Pct.

Goal - To gain mass and strength. Get my weight to 230 while maintaing my bf%. I will post my diet up to critiqued as well.

[GymHero]

Bump...

[GymHero]

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[Capebuffalo]

I'm curious this is your 3 rd cycle?

11-23-2010, 09:05 AM #8 GymHero
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That is exactly what I was thinking, its almost been 24 hours and the pain is very tolerable! This is my first cycle by the way, so I'm guessing the pain I have is prob just from my virgin muscle

That was November. Are you taking any time off?

[GymHero]

Huh? Yes this is my 3rd cycle

[GymHero]

so much help lol...

[t-dogg]

What are your stats? Sounds like a bigger cycle seeing it is your 3rd time on.

[GymHero]

What are your stats? Sounds like a bigger cycle seeing it is your 3rd time on.

Did you even look at my thread...

[t-dogg]

Did you even look at my thread...

WTF, I posted this in another thread. Weird.


Why such a big jump in dose? What is your diet like?

[GymHero]

anyone.... Vets?

[Shsm]

'Diet - I'm happy with it' What is this supposed to mean?

[GymHero]

It means this isnt the diet section and is the steroid Q&A section... Il get my diet looked at in the right section.. Great response by the way Shsm

[MickeyKnox]

GymHero,

please list you past cycles so that we know what you have experience with. this would help everyone a great deal in critiquing your proposed cycle.

[GymHero]

GymHero,

please list you past cycles so that we know what you have experience with. this would help everyone a great deal in critiquing your proposed cycle.

My past cycles are listed above in my thread... Does anyone actually take the time to read anymore :/

[t-dogg]

Being a smart ass wont get you far here...



Ok cycle.

1) Your taking test e and p at the same time? Doesnt make sense.

2) i really dont understand why you need to jump up so much on only the 3rd cycle.

3) your ai shouldnt be "on hand". It should be used!

4) diet. "Happy with it". Running that much gear, i would think this would be planned out.

5) a and dbol are a waste of money.

6) you want mass, id hold off on the winny until you cut.

[fit2bOld]

A big jump in quantity Test 750 mg Deca 600 mg is quite a bit of gear. 500 test and 250 deca will bring solid results on a third cycle and minimize sides.
Really think you should hold the winny for a future cycle seeing that your front loading it with leftovers from a previous. Don't waste your $ on Abombs or d-bol since you already have a Prop/ NPP front load. AI definitely need to be run with this..

That said at 24 you should consider easing up and giving the machine (your Body) a bit more respect. You could be adding lots of pounds naturally or with well planned minimal cycles.. IMHO

[MickeyKnox]

My past cycles are listed above in my thread... Does anyone actually take the time to read anymore :/

i missed that. my apologies.

not to mention that's a fair amount of aas for a third cycle, and i don't see any hcg, you've be on cycle a total of 26wks including pct. that's 52 wks at time on time off. your first cycle was in nov? are you not giving your body (endocrine,cns) time to recover properly? id be a bit concerned..

[Capebuffalo]

i missed that. my apologies.

not to mention that's a fair amount of aas for a third cycle, and i don't see any hcg, you've be on cycle a total of 26wks including pct. that's 52 wks at time on time off. your first cycle was in nov? are you not giving your body (endocrine,cns) time to recover properly? id be a bit concerned..

That was my concern damn. Not damn Micky Just damn

[GymHero]

i missed that. my apologies.

not to mention that's a fair amount of aas for a third cycle, and i don't see any hcg, you've be on cycle a total of 26wks including pct. that's 52 wks at time on time off. your first cycle was in nov? are you not giving your body (endocrine,cns) time to recover properly? id be a bit concerned..

26 wks wtf? Its been 5 months since i finished my pct from my last cycle... What is this 52 wk crazy cycle you are talking about?? I also have Hcg on hand, I plan on taking 250iu x2 a week.

[GymHero]

Being a smart ass wont get you far here...

No disrespect man just in a shitty mood...

Ok cycle.

1) Your taking test e and p at the same time? Doesnt make sense. Test E doesnt kick in until about the 4th week, once i stop the prop enth will be kicking in.

2) i really dont understand why you need to jump up so much on only the 3rd cycle. That is why I am here for advice. This is just a layout.

3) your ai shouldnt be "on hand". It should be used! It will be once I start.

4) diet. "Happy with it". Running that much gear, i would think this would be planned out. Diet has been planned out. A lot of tweaking has been done

5) a and dbol are a waste of money. Ya wasnt sure about it since I am already frontloading with prop and dbol i guess is overkill and just no point?

6) you want mass, id hold off on the winny until you cut.

Even for the last few weeks once im finishing up to harden me up?

[t-dogg]

Even for the last few weeks once im finishing up to harden me up?

Its up to you imo.

[GymHero]

A big jump in quantity Test 750 mg Deca 600 mg is quite a bit of gear. 500 test and 250 deca will bring solid results on a third cycle and minimize sides.
Really think you should hold the winny for a future cycle seeing that your front loading it with leftovers from a previous. Don't waste your $ on Abombs or d-bol since you already have a Prop/ NPP front load. AI definitely need to be run with this..

That said at 24 you should consider easing up and giving the machine (your Body) a bit more respect. You could be adding lots of pounds naturally or with well planned minimal cycles.. IMHO

Really when it comes down to I am only going to be running 2 steroids. Enth and Deca. I am frontloading the two with Prop and Npp. Once Enth and Deca kick in I will drop prop and Npp. As far as the dose, i am not set on the mg. I am all ears to what you guys think about lowering changing things up etc...

[fit2bOld]

Really when it comes down to I am only going to be running 2 steroids. Enth and Deca. I am frontloading the two with Prop and Npp. Once Enth and Deca kick in I will drop prop and Npp. As far as the dose, i am not set on the mg. I am all ears to what you guys think about lowering changing things up etc...

Test 500mg deca 250mg is a solid cycle run with an AI and followed by PCT 2 weeks after last pin

[MickeyKnox]

26 wks wtf? Its been 5 months since i finished my pct from my last cycle... What is this 52 wk crazy cycle you are talking about?? I also have Hcg on hand, I plan on taking 250iu x2 a week.

sorry i thought that was nov/11 but it was in /10. this proves i must start wearing my f'ing glasses..getting old sucks!

[Lunk1]

Either way....Op, please try to be somewhat respectful and remember these guys are not getting paid to help you...they do it out of the kindness of their hearts (except for T-dogg, he got a $100 lol).

[gixxerboy1]

Test 500mg deca 250mg is a solid cycle run with an AI and followed by PCT 2 weeks after last pin

I agree. There is no reason to use more then you need.

[GymHero]

Either way....Op, please try to be somewhat respectful and remember these guys are not getting paid to help you...they do it out of the kindness of their hearts (except for T-dogg, he got a $100 lol).

I have nothing but respect for this board... Imo this is the best AAS forum. I have been helped numerous times by members here. All we see is text and sometimes it can come off how we didn't intend for it to.

[Lunk1]

I have nothing but respect for this board... Imo this is the best AAS forum. I have been helped numerous times by members here. All we see is text and sometimes it can come off how we didn't intend for it to.

Yeah I hear ya...my wife and I even run into that texting one another. Just throwing it out there before things went down hill...Good Luck man

[stpete]

This will be my 3rd cycle. I have only used short esters in my previous cycles and want to mix it up this time. I have some Prop and NPP left from my previous cycle and wondered why not just frontload the test/deca until the longer esters kick in? Is there anything wrong with the layout I have below? I also have dbol/Abombs. I have never ran either. I heard abombs can suppress your appetite and thats the last thing i want right now. I want to avoid bloat and i know i will retain with these but doesnt abombs make you hold more? I could throw dbol or the abombs in for the first 4 weeks?





Critique -

Wk 1-4 Test Prop 150mg EOD
WK 1-4 NPP 100mg EOD
Wk 1-16 Test Enth 750mg WK
WK 1-14 Deca 600mg WK
WK 10-16 Winny 100mg ED
Aromasin on hand

My goal from this cycle is to gain a lot of mass and strength. I want to add winny in at the end to harden me up and solidify my gains. I also had no problems with joint pain while running it in the past. Although I was also taking NPP which im sure helped.

Stats -
Age -24
Height - 6"1
Weight - 217
BF % - 9%
Diet - Im happy with it

Previous Cycles -
Test Prop 150mg EOD 8 weeks. Pct Nolva/Clomid
Test Prop 150mg EOD 10 weeks, NPP 100mg EOD 8 weeks, Winny 50mg ED WK 4-8. Same Pct.

Goal - To gain mass and strength. Get my weight to 230 while maintaing my bf%. I will post my diet up to critiqued as well.

Can we get your stats prior to any cycles? And what were your gains from end of 1st cycle to end of 2nd cycle?

Thanks.

[JohnnyVegas]

I have nothing but respect for this board... Imo this is the best AAS forum. I have been helped numerous times by members here. All we see is text and sometimes it can come off how we didn't intend for it to.

I was surprised that the thread went negative so quickly (on everyone's part). Throw in a couple of misunderstandings and BAM. It seems like everyone is on edge lately.

Glad to see it turned around.

[Lunk1]

I was surprised that the thread went negative so quickly (on everyone's part). Throw in a couple of misunderstandings and BAM. It seems like everyone is on edge lately.

Glad to see it turned around.

Its the Razor banning lol