suuuper lethargic on tren

[measuretwicecutonce]

like its ridiculous. opinions? running test prop 300/wk and tren ace 400/wk week 2.

have both but not on either Aromasin n Caber. (i figured at 300 prop there would be very little estrogen conversion and i would want that slight aromatizing, not on caber as not having prolactin issues. no leaky nips no puffiness, no sensitivity, lumps, etc. slight acne first week but has settled back to normal. appetite slightly suppressed, irritation up, aggression down. super super lethargic like i don't want to do crap but just do nothing and sleep. sight anxiety it comes n goes, and i a bit of body warmth. but no sweating. sleeping fine.

got a physical before cycle with blood everything normal, however i don't have those specifics. from GP - blue cross.

some people are saying run a metab/energy booster like ECA or fat burner, others saying T3 for thyroid increase, some say maybe not enough estrogen, and need more aromatizing.

I pm-ed Atomi but would also like to hear from the board.

diet is 100% clean with 1000-1200 cal surplus. 6 meals. standard 40/40/20 using insulin spike in morning and after workout with fast carbs, etc.
standard sups, bcaa, glutamin, taurine, largine, l citrulline, creatine, multi, etc.
extra sups: vitamin a 25k iu, vitamin D 5k iu, OTC calcium

cardio is 3x week x 20-30min

Thanks in advanced!

[measuretwicecutonce]

wheres the tren cult when you need them?
bump.

[t-dogg]

Any other sides?

[measuretwicecutonce]

sides: irritation, headaches come n go, appetite down, aggression down, anxiety time to time, body warmth, acne came during first week, but has cleared already, pumping like 2-3gallons of water a day. thirst up, libido up, extremely lethargic, skin and hair a bit drier. strength is not up. got 2 painful pumps but started with taurine, added more calcium and potassium.

[t-dogg]

Ever just consider lowering the dose?

[measuretwicecutonce]

if it comes to it. absolutely.

[Brohim]

never understand why guys won't run an AI and no caber w/ Tren. YOu realize estrogen will cause more severe Tren sides? If you don't want to run an AI run 80mg of test per week. You still need Caber IMO at least .5mg per week.

[t-dogg]

if it comes to it. absolutely.

I actually have a close friend who runs test, deca, tren and winny and sometimes dbol with it. He doesnt run a ai either.


And just about everything you posted for sides he has.

Tren is strong stuff. It just comes down to what you are willing to except, to meet your goals.

[measuretwicecutonce]

for tren sides. their not THAT bad. the main thing i just feel lethargic n crappy. n i do have as much "go" as i normally do on or off which is a bit frustrating. but u know where I'm about to take that anger out on.

[measuretwicecutonce]

never understand why guys won't run an AI and no caber w/ Tren. YOu realize estrogen will cause more severe Tren sides? If you don't want to run an AI run 80mg of test per week. You still need Caber IMO at least .5mg per week.

thats y i have caber and AI on hand. n test is lower. I'm a firm believer if u don't need ancillaries, don't use them unless ur running super high doses, then its a must off the gecko. ya caber .25 e3d. whats ur tren experience?

[ironbeck]

What is your cardio routine?

[auswest]

I had to play with my test dosage I was experiencing the same thing, I was running 75mg tren Ed and started with 275mg test a week I think my sweet spot was 450mg test a week along side that tren dose

[Dukkit]

Lethargy is a side affect of tren.

I always get it.

Its also usually a side when you go higher dosed test.

Or gh.

First thing first though.... get blood work.

Go from there.

Prolactin, estro, blood pressure, thyroid levles, etc.

Adjust as needed.


If everything is fine... then its just how tren affects you.

Lower the dose.

[stpete]

Why don't you try less tren than test? At least you gave yourself a decent amount of test. As suggested get the tren lower than the test.

[measuretwicecutonce]

I had to play with my test dosage I was experiencing the same thing, I was running 75mg tren Ed and started with 275mg test a week I think my sweet spot was 450mg test a week along side that tren dose

so you had more estrogen.... thats also higher tren tho. I'm at 60ED

[measuretwicecutonce]

What is your cardio routine?

30min 3x a week. varying cadence. mostly running

[measuretwicecutonce]

ya ill think ill get blood done, n go from there.

[measuretwicecutonce]

anyone get eye burning on tren? like u need ur eyes are sunburnt?