dosing deca?

[freddy1418]

So I was wondering opinions on first cycle deca dosing. I have proper pct, ai and test this would be second cycle of aas first being test c 500mg week and have several ph cycle under my belt... have diet in check and my stats are 6'2" height weigt is 216lbs and I'm 28yrs old... I will def be incorparating deca with the cycle but was wondering at what dose would be good to start.. I will be willing to run test from 500-750mg week.. am thinkng deca from 250mg to 500mg... thanks for the feedback

[gixxerboy1]

test 500
deca 300

[stpete]

^^^^^ That will be sufficient.

[TOkidd]

Why not Deca @ 400mg / week? I'm running 450mg / week with 500mg of test e, and am very happy with the results after 5 weeks on.
I know gixxer and stpete have far more experience than me, but I think 400mg / week is more common dosage.

[gixxerboy1]

400 isnt a bad dose. just more then i feel he would need for a 2nd cycle

[TOkidd]

400 isnt a bad dose. just more then i feel he would need for a 2nd cycle

I get it. When I did my first cycle 9 years ago, Deca-only cycles were pretty common. So I did an 8-week cycle of Organon deca @ 400mg / week. I kept all my gains. I didn't experience deca dick and I fell in love with Deca forever after. I think a deca / test combo is one of the best all-purpose cycles a guy can do.

In the end it's up to the OP to choose his dose based largely on our advice, but I think because Deca has a fairly low side effect profile, I don't think an extra 100mg would hurt, but it would certainly help his gains,

[Ashop]

So I was wondering opinions on first cycle deca dosing. I have proper pct, ai and test this would be second cycle of aas first being test c 500mg week and have several ph cycle under my belt... have diet in check and my stats are 6'2" height weigt is 216lbs and I'm 28yrs old... I will def be incorparating deca with the cycle but was wondering at what dose would be good to start.. I will be willing to run test from 500-750mg week.. am thinkng deca from 250mg to 500mg... thanks for the feedback

I like DECA at the general rule of thumb of 2mg per pound of bodyweight.

[Metalject]

I get it. When I did my first cycle 9 years ago, Deca-only cycles were pretty common. So I did an 8-week cycle of Organon deca @ 400mg / week. I kept all my gains. I didn't experience deca dick and I fell in love with Deca forever after. I think a deca / test combo is one of the best all-purpose cycles a guy can do.

In the end it's up to the OP to choose his dose based largely on our advice, but I think because Deca has a fairly low side effect profile, I don't think an extra 100mg would hurt, but it would certainly help his gains,

I agree, it's one of the best steroids out there and carries an extremely high level of toleration for most men. It has become highly underrated on message boards the last 5yrs or so due to brotastical myths but it's a great steroid.

[freddy1418]

I agree, it's one of the best steroids out there and carries an extremely high level of toleration for most men. It has become highly underrated on message boards the last 5yrs or so due to brotastical myths but it's a great steroid.

Ok so what would you dose it at? And to everyone else thanks for the feedback

[fit2bOld]

I too am a fan of Deca 250-400 mg is plenty for a 2nd cycle.

[freddy1418]

I too am a fan of Deca 250-400 mg is plenty for a 2nd cycle.

That's a big range though..
From 1ml to 2ml lol can I be a little mpre specific in your dose Bud? thanks

[TOkidd]

I've often heard 2mg per pound of bodyweight per week as the rule of thumb for Deca dosing. Unlike test, Deca's gains are slow and steady, but you will keep most of them. As a result, you should take it for a minimum of 10 weeks to give the results time to accumulate, and 12 weeks is often recommended. Because it's so well tolerated I think taking a 400mg / week dosage is acceptable, because your gains will be better and the risk of side effects from an extra 100mg will most likely be minimal.

There are 3 sides you have to worry about with Deca. The main one is progesterone-related gyno, which cannot be treated with your usual AI's like Arimidex, but can usually be kept under control with them. However, it is best to take Vitamin B6 @ 100mg twice daily throughout your cycle as a very helpful preventative of progesterone-related gyno in case you are prone to it. However, doses of 400mg / week do not often cause gyno, and the standard AI (Arimidex, etc) combined with daily B6 makes it very unlikely. However, in the case that you are hyper-sensitive to progesterone, you can consider buying some cabergoline to effectively treat this form of gyno. But I would think that if you are that sensitive to progesterone, 300mg will be just as likely to cause it as 400mg / week.

The second side effect some users complain about with Deca is water retention. However, in my experience, the bloat is no worse than that from test. Taking arimidex throughout your cycle is the best way to keep this under control, and you can adjust the dosage accordingly. IMO, many reports of deca bloat are overblown. Since deca is usually never taken without test, how can the user be sure that it's not the test causing the bloat, or simply the combination of the two? Either way, water retention is a very manageable side effect and IMO not much to worry about. It goes away shortly after you stop taking the drug.

The third side-effect commonly associated with Deca is the dreaded "Deca-dick." Because Deca inhibits your natural test production tremendously, this can lead to erectile dyfunction and impotence while taking it. This is why those in the know always advise taking a minimum of 200mg / week of testosterone along with the deca to prevent this problem. Test E is an excellent choice, because the half-lives are similar (enanthate has a somewhat shorter half life than decanoate), and when it comes time to end your cycle you will be able to stop taking Deca 1-2 weeks before you stop taking the test, rather than several weeks later with a short-acting ester like test propionate. The point is, as long as you take test and deca at the same time, deca dick is not a concern. When it comes time to end your cycle, stop the deca 1-2 week before you stop your test e.

Hope this helps you make your decision.

[hyphy_beast]

Advantages to npp or just stick with deca?

Wasn't trying to hijack, I guess I should probably put this in the appropriate forum or thread

[freddy1418]

I've often heard 2mg per pound of bodyweight per week as the rule of thumb for Deca dosing. Unlike test, Deca's gains are slow and steady, but you will keep most of them. As a result, you should take it for a minimum of 10 weeks to give the results time to accumulate, and 12 weeks is often recommended. Because it's so well tolerated I think taking a 400mg / week dosage is acceptable, because your gains will be better and the risk of side effects from an extra 100mg will most likely be minimal.

There are 3 sides you have to worry about with Deca. The main one is progesterone-related gyno, which cannot be treated with your usual AI's like Arimidex, but can usually be kept under control with them. However, it is best to take Vitamin B6 @ 100mg twice daily throughout your cycle as a very helpful preventative of progesterone-related gyno in case you are prone to it. However, doses of 400mg / week do not often cause gyno, and the standard AI (Arimidex, etc) combined with daily B6 makes it very unlikely. However, in the case that you are hyper-sensitive to progesterone, you can consider buying some cabergoline to effectively treat this form of gyno. But I would think that if you are that sensitive to progesterone, 300mg will be just as likely to cause it as 400mg / week.

The second side effect some users complain about with Deca is water retention. However, in my experience, the bloat is no worse than that from test. Taking arimidex throughout your cycle is the best way to keep this under control, and you can adjust the dosage accordingly. IMO, many reports of deca bloat are overblown. Since deca is usually never taken without test, how can the user be sure that it's not the test causing the bloat, or simply the combination of the two? Either way, water retention is a very manageable side effect and IMO not much to worry about. It goes away shortly after you stop taking the drug.

The third side-effect commonly associated with Deca is the dreaded "Deca-dick." Because Deca inhibits your natural test production tremendously, this can lead to erectile dyfunction and impotence while taking it. This is why those in the know always advise taking a minimum of 200mg / week of testosterone along with the deca to prevent this problem. Test E is an excellent choice, because the half-lives are similar (enanthate has a somewhat shorter half life than decanoate), and when it comes time to end your cycle you will be able to stop taking Deca 1-2 weeks before you stop taking the test, rather than several weeks later with a short-acting ester like test propionate. The point is, as long as you take test and deca at the same time, deca dick is not a concern. When it comes time to end your cycle, stop the deca 1-2 week before you stop your test e.

Hope this helps you make your decision.

Awesome post thanks and it def did help with my decision process.. much appreciated