Questions for anyone that cycled before 25

[Shsm]

What age did you start?

What did you run?

How did it affect your growth?

How are you now?

Do you regret it?

Thanks!

[Times Roman]

If you want an informed answer to your question, I think I'd suggest listening to someone that has enough experience in years and is now looking back at that time in their life and can do an honest evaluation.

You are 19. I don't think someone that is 21 or 22 would have the experienced answer you are looking for? Someone in their late twenties, early thirties at a minimum.

[Shsm]

If you want an informed answer to your question, I think I'd suggest listening to someone that has enough experience in years and is now looking back at that time in their life and can do an honest evaluation.

You are 19. I don't think someone that is 21 or 22 would have the experienced answer you are looking for?

I don't understand what you're asking.

The whole purpose of this question is for older members to share their experience on this subject, certainly not someone in their 20s just starting out...

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I just pm'd you.

but you are right.

[zaggahamma]

43 now

cycle anadrol and test age 20 no PCT...uneducated and fat...the cycle improved composition but no i would have waited if i was educated

trt at age 36

[binsser]

33 now cycled at 18 heavy tren and test cycle first cycle no ai /pct so crashed very hard but fine never had anything wrong took me about 4 months to recover properly!

and i gained and never lost 2 stone !

[AXx]

30yr old now

Alright let's see where to start.

Cycled the real "andro" back when I was 16, 17, and 18. Never PCT or took anything else with it. I was taking 3 times the recommended dose. First signs of low T was at 21.

At 22 I cycled dbol and whinny pills, lol. Yeah I know, again ran them incorrectly. No PCT and no test ran with it. Again signs of low T after this.

5 days after my 25th birthday I cycles test c only. Gained a shit ton of size and water. I ran no AI and didn't PCT that either. My diet was crap throughout all of the previous cycles. Lost everything I had gained. I'm not crazy right now but I'm definitely a candidate for TRT.


Now in 5 years I have learned a ton of things that I did wrong. Now I'm dealing with it. Wished I had known then what I know now.

Noobs if you are reading this please understand I am being serious, this isn't a scare tactic this is real life. If you bust your ass in the gym and have a diet that is spot on then you can accomplish so many goals.

[Shsm]

43 now

cycle anadrol and test age 20 no PCT...uneducated and fat...the cycle improved composition but no i would have waited if i was educated

trt at age 36

Is TRT as bad as people say it is?

33 now cycled at 18 heavy tren and test cycle first cycle no ai /pct so crashed very hard but fine never had anything wrong took me about 4 months to recover properly!

and i gained and never lost 2 stone !

Glad you recovered!

30yr old now

Alright let's see where to start.

Cycled the real "andro" back when I was 16, 17, and 18. Never PCT or took anything else with it. I was taking 3 times the recommended dose. First signs of low T was at 21.

At 22 I cycled dbol and whinny pills, lol. Yeah I know, again ran them incorrectly. No PCT and no test ran with it. Again signs of low T after this.

5 days after my 25th birthday I cycles test c only. Gained a shit ton of size and water. I ran no AI and didn't PCT that either. My diet was crap throughout all of the previous cycles. Lost everything I had gained. I'm not crazy right now but I'm definitely a candidate for TRT.

Now in 5 years I have learned a ton of things that I did wrong. Now I'm dealing with it. Wished I had known then what I know now.

Noobs if you are reading this please understand I am being serious, this isn't a scare tactic this is real life. If you bust your ass in the gym and have a diet that is spot on then you can accomplish so many goals.

The deeds are done. At least you're okay and look good now as well as having my dream profession.

Most men over the age of 30-35 are TRT candidates anyways, right?

[gearbox]

Glad you recovered!

The deeds are done. At least you're okay and look good now as well as having my dream profession.

Most men over the age of 30-35 are TRT candidates anyways, right?

I would need to see stats on that. My guess is more 45+ men. But I will search when I get hm later

[Shsm]

I would need to see stats on that. My guess is more 45+ men. But I will search when I get hm later

[< <Samson> >]

Is TRT as bad as people say it is?

I been considering this myself, I will be 32 this month.

Still too soon I say, I don't want a life time of pinning unnecessarily. But, I getting my blood work done here within a month before I start another cycle at that time it will be over five months since I been off my first run.

If, I'm low - We will see where things go. If I am good I will get it checked again a few months after my next cycle.


Personally I couldn't imagine life for the last 10 years with having to get shots every week. Fvck being huge, just not worth it. Just my opinion.

[DanB]

Nobody is going to justify it for you if that is what your looking for

You said is trt that bad? Well what happens when a time in life comes when you cant afford trt and you feel like shit 24/7 and your dick dosnt work

You know the risks, it your body, nobody here will justify it for you but if you want to risk it then go ahead its that simple

[Shsm]

Nobody is going to justify it for you if that is what your looking for

You said is trt that bad? Well what happens when a time in life comes when you cant afford trt and you feel like shit 24/7 and your dick dosnt work

You know the risks, it your body, nobody here will justify it for you but if you want to risk it then go ahead its that simple

What are you talking about?

I don't anticipate cycling before I'm 24-25. I'm simply requesting a few members to open up on their experiences and thoughts on the subject.

There's this relatively easy thing called asking before you assume, perhaps you should try it sometime.

[kelkel]

Lets remember TRT seems to be the "catch all" for any man just not feeling good or performing up to par anymore. It's also becoming a huge business. Look at Androgel and the billion dollar business it has become as well as clinics, etc.

TRT is not a "bad thing." It's a great thing if you need it. To be able to restore your hormone levels to that of a younger man and receive all the benefits that come with that is incredible. It's something our parents generation (mine anyway) did not have the ability to do and had to suffer debilitating consequences due to it. I personally did not need TRT until a couple years ago which was related to a pituitary tumor that totally shut me down. (59 T level)

My first cycle was at 19. Back then (late 70's) there was no such thing as pct, hcg, internet forums or otherwise knowledge easily found like it is today. You are very fortunate to have a site such as this at your fingertips and to be able to learn from people who have a lifetimes worth of knowledge on the subject. Absorb it.

kel

[SEOINAGE]

Honestly TRT isn't going to make you feel like you do right now. I know because at 20 I gained muscle easily and stayed lean and had the craziest libido in the world. TRT won't bring you back to that. At least even at upper levels it doesn't bring that back. Say you start trt at 20 and do it for 60 years, that could cost you well over 100 thousand dollars, probably a million by the time you look at the value of the dollar over those 60 years, and for what, to never feel as good as you would have if you managed to keep your system in tact? Mines not steroid induced, but disease induced, I avoided steroids, as bad as I wanted to do them, just so that i could remain healthy.

[JWP806]

I ran andro at 17, test at 18 (mom threw out my pct), test and dbol at 20 (no PCT), test only a few more times (with pct). I'm about to be 26 and don't have any problems as of yet but that's not to say my endocrine system wasn't damaged.

All of my cycling I did between 18-23 were a waste because I was not committed, I was a college kid and I drank my ass off. Had no diet and when I came off of cycle I lost most of my gains. Looking back, I would have done things a bit differently.

As Dan said, know the risks and make an informed decision, realizing that you have one body and that's all you get.

[JAB1]

At 22ish I ran some type of pro-hormone, andro I believe. Not even sure what it was, it was two bottles and a oral syrynge. Packed on 20 pounds in no time, got super strong, ****ed up my shoulder due to tendons, etc not being prepared, lost all the weight as fast as I got it. Wish I had known better. DId my first real cycle with education on ai, pct, diet, 10 years later, which was almost a year ago. Spend the next few years perfecting your diet and training, and studying proper aas use, and then cycle if and when you are ready once you hit 25, you wont regret it.

[Shsm]

Lets remember TRT seems to be the "catch all" for any man just not feeling good or performing up to par anymore. It's also becoming a huge business. Look at Androgel and the billion dollar business it has become as well as clinics, etc.

TRT is not a "bad thing." It's a great thing if you need it. To be able to restore your hormone levels to that of a younger man and receive all the benefits that come with that is incredible. It's something our parents generation (mine anyway) did not have the ability to do and had to suffer debilitating consequences due to it. I personally did not need TRT until a couple years ago which was related to a pituitary tumor that totally shut me down. (59 T level)

My first cycle was at 19. Back then (late 70's) there was no such thing as pct, hcg, internet forums or otherwise knowledge easily found like it is today. You are very fortunate to have a site such as this at your fingertips and to be able to learn from people who have a lifetimes worth of knowledge on the subject. Absorb it.

kel

Thank you, you covered my question completely. That's exactly what I'm doing, these next 5-6 years I'm constantly researching to become as knowledgable I can on the subject of AAS to ensure I'm doing it correctly.

[kelkel]

Glad it helped. Stick around!

[zaggahamma]

kelkel stated it well about trt and how i feel

and i had actually never heard anything bad about trt...i guess on the shame that some are in need of it at too young an age due to neglect/abuse

me personally i give it a 10 for what it did for me

its really awesome that we have the internet these days for researching and forums etc. theres no excuse for doing anything these days iladvised

sounds like you will educate b4 medicate so your a step up

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is that a promotional brochure from a wellness center?

[Metalject]

From lowtestosterone.com

"There are some men who will experience a rapid decline earlier than others; there are men who for a host of reasons in their early 20's may experience a low testosterone condition, but for most of us by the time we reach the age of 30 our levels dip down, and once we hit 40 and on they start crashing down more and more every single year; when it comes to low testosterone, over forty is the primary age group."

"Clinical estimates cite up to 50% of all 40 year old men now have testosterone levels below their age norm"

"Research estimates cite up to half of all men at 40 now have testosterone levels below the approximately 620 ng/dl norm for this age."

I think it's also important to recognize low testosterone can be caused by many other things other than early anabolic steroid use. In fact, it is estimated more than 20 million men in the U.S. alone suffer from low testosterone or a related androgen deficiency such as Andropause. Taken from the same lowtestosterone.com site, common causes for low testosterone:

Viral infection
Surgical history
Kidney and liver disease
Certain autoimmune disorders
Genetic and developmental disorders
Radiation treatment or exposure
Chronic illness
Chronic kidney problems or failure
Cirrhosis of the liver
Stress
Alcoholism
Obesity (especially abdominal)
Rapid, significant weight loss
Surgery
Trauma
Tumors
Injury, infection, or loss of the testicle(s)
Nutritional deficiencies
Hemochromatosis (too much iron in the body)
Chronic bleeding
Certain medications, including steroids and opiates
Genetic abnormalities such as Klinefelter's Syndrome (an extra ‘X' chromosome)
Chemotherapy or radiation treatments
Inflammatory diseases such as sarcoidosis (a lung inflammation causing condition)