Can I have some input and reviews from users who've used " dianabol, anavar, helladrol, dieselbolan, and Epistane" and share what kind of gains and sides they got from using them. And which ones they've like the best!
Can I have some input and reviews from users who've used " dianabol, anavar, helladrol, dieselbolan, and Epistane" and share what kind of gains and sides they got from using them. And which ones they've like the best!
honestly i dont like any orals
Epistane sucks i wouldn't use again if it was free.
Dbol is ok. Over 40 mgs is just more sides for me.
And i wouldn't use any oral alone
If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
dbol - best pumps ever ! , gained good strength and size as well.Originally Posted by dustinn07
no gyno
did bloat me a bit
var - N/A
never herd of helladrol
epistane is one of my all time favorites ! very vascular and dry hard quality gains . strength gains were lost after cycle , but good on.
hair loss (minimal )
joint pains aftet 3months of usage
atrophy of testies after 4 months of usage .
elevated blood work after 4 months of usage .
winstrol -is most favorites .
pumps , strength , size ,vascularity , endurance .
joint pain
thining of hair
all used with different tests except epi
I heard birth control pills are good choices for body builders leading up to a comp. Sounds silly to me, but it makes a bit of sense when I noticed to wasnt to make gains, but rather make their muscles "fill out" a couple of weeks before. Of course I am not recommending Birth control pills because for most of us, that would be silly.
Var @ 100 ED
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maybe ill try var soon XDOriginally Posted by austinite
Im pro anavar lol
I feel leftout now that i havnt tried var lol.
Considering liver transplants are impossible, I've grown attached to mine and prefer to avoid orals.....unless its my wife giving me oral pleasure.Originally Posted by < <Samson> >
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Only oral Id ever run is anavar.
I will say the best oral comes in the form of a fake titty, fake lips stripper imo.
Last edited by t-dogg; 09-15-2012 at 07:32 PM.
I love TBOL. Great strength and LBM gains. Currently doing 80mg/ED but I think 60mg/ED is the sweet spot for me as I'm writing this with a splitting headache.
Also I think the effect on liver is overblown. Just got back some bloodwork and my liver values were normal.
Overblown? I'd be careful saying that. A lot of young guys coming in here will read that and assume orals are safe and that simply is untrue. A damaged liver cannot be replaced and you cannot survive without it. Orals are far more hepatotoxic and effect everyone differently.Originally Posted by flashie
That kind of statement could result in a very bad decision for someone.
Thanks, I appreciate that and I'm glad you're keeping up with your liver maintenance and getting your LFTs done.Originally Posted by flashie
Man I try dbol I have to drop it before the 4th week I didn't like it I was too blotted I was taking 40mg a day
Just to add to the liver discussion. It is really important when taking an oral to avoid everyday things that stress your liver like Tylenol (acetaminophen) and alcohol. Also always be drinking tons of water. If you do these things then you *should* be ok. But the safest thing to do is get your liver checked regularly. I only just started doing this myself.
I just had liver function tests done after 1month dbol@25mg per day and everything is peachy. No sides and the test continues...
Var at 100mg ed.
I used oral Dbol only cycles and was a lot younger then. Had excellent results with a good diet(Food,Food,Food). I have had liver sgot and sgpt tests done in routine BW with only slightly elevated levels but in the ranges. Was on 40mg/ed for 8 weeks.
I think running DBol only is stupid enough, but 8 weeks is a long time for any oral steriod in my opinion. Var is amazing, but the sides I got from it is just not worth it for me again. I might try it at a lower doseage, but not over 100mgs ever.
What sides from anavar?Originally Posted by warmouth
personally i get none apart from severe and sometimes painful pumpsOriginally Posted by t-dogg
just reread his post, im also interested what sides he experinces
Also, some people choose to run a liver support while on any type of oral. NAC and Liv52 seem to be popular.
check atomoni thread on liver supportOriginally Posted by zleeb82
lower back from deads and if i was sparring then delts are fried in minutes but i dont mind the calf pump even running long distance, personally i think that footware makes a big difference thereOriginally Posted by Shsm
I only get shin pumps from var. Arms feel great.
Hi,
For me it is:
Tbol
Oxandrolone
Superdrol
Currently on 600mg TE and 40mg Tbol ed. Nice cycle.
~abuleh
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