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    First cycle, doin it right?

    Hey everyone.

    I have introduced myself here about a month ago and since my stats have changed a bit. My bf% was off, I was guessing from when it was read in the past, and I have gained muscle. I would appreciate any feedback just leave your ego out of it please. I am new to some of this and just want to learn. Thanks!

    28yrs old
    Lifting 8yrs pretty solidly
    10%bf, 5'10", 218lb
    bench 315 2reps
    Squat 405 4reps

    As my first cycle my focus of main concern is to experience the cycle to its full benefit and learn how my body reacts on cycle, during PCT, and off cycle. I want to set a good base of knowledge for future cycles. As far as gains my focus is on full muscle bodies and symmetry throughout, drop a little body fat with cardio, dialing in my diet and keeping it that wat after PCT. I will focus on maintaing low bf% after cycle with clen and and ketotifen.

    Before listing my cycle plans I want to state that I have started an Anavar 6 week cycle. I am currently at the end of week 3. I am planning on starting the Test E 10 for 10 weeks immediately and run the remaining 3 weeks of Var through its beginning.


    Week -1 Var 60mg ed
    Week -2 Var 60mg ed
    Week -3 Var 100mg ed, 50mg morning, 50mg evening
    Week -4 Var 100mg ed, Test E 500mg split: 250mg Mon morning, 250mg Thurs evening, HCG 500iu split: 250iu Mon morning, 250iu Thurs evening, Arimidex .25mg ed
    Week -5 Var 100mg ed, Test E 500mg, HCG 500iu, Ai .25mg ed
    Week -6 Var 100mg ed, Test E 500mg, HCG 500iu, Ai .25mg ed
    Week -7 Test E 500mg, HCG 500iu, Ai .25mg ed
    Week -8 Test E 500mg, HCG 500iu, Ai .25mg ed
    Week -9 Test E 500mg, HCG 500iu, Ai .25mg ed
    Week -10 Test E 500mg, HCG 500iu, Ai .25mg ed
    Week -11 Test E 500mg, HCG 500iu, Ai .25mg ed
    Week -12 Test E 500mg, HCG 500iu, Ai .25mg ed
    Week -13 Test E 500mg, HCG 500iu, Ai .25mg ed, Winny 50mg ed
    Week -14 Test E 500mg, HCG 500iu, Ai .25mg ed, Winny 50mg ed
    Week -15 Test E 500mg, HCG 500iu, Ai .25mg ed, Winny 50mg ed
    Week -16 Test E 500mg, HCG 500iu, Ai .25mg ed, Winny 50mg ed
    Week -17 eat, sleep, train
    Week -18 eat, sleep, train
    Week -19 through 23 PCT: Clomid 100/50/25/25 Nolva 40/40/20/20

    Questions:

    Is my HCG too much or would 250iu once a week be good to start with and assess from there?
    To minimize pinning can I put the HCG in same syringe as Test E for single shot or will this not work for these compounds?
    I have read that I can start the Winny last 2 weeks of cycle and run up to PCT, is this recommended?
    Will the Var just 3 weeks before Test E screw me?

    Thanks so much everyone. I plan on posting pics soon.

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    You wont know how your body reacts with 3 compounds.

    First cycle TEST only

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    We discussed this already in his first post.
    Quote Originally Posted by AXx View Post
    You wont know how your body reacts with 3 compounds.

    First cycle TEST only

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    I thought it looked fimilar

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    why did you re post this? did you not like the answers you received?

    delete/edit(with ....) your post please. it's a repost in the same forum. thank you

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    This is the 3rd time in 2 days. OP- and anyone else reading this:

    Please give us time to respond. It's only been an hour or so from your last post. If it gets too far down the forum for your liking, just bump it. It will go back to the top. I'm also saying this for your own good. a lot of guys will simply not answer because of you being impatient and pushing the topic.

    Now chill out. haha...

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    You need to read beginners cycles beacuse this cycle is a mess.Your Ai is off your HCG is off.Bro do some research before you hurt yourself.

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    Wow. That cycle is a mess and all over the place with multiple compounds, orals, injectables.....talk about a cocktail of junk.

    Not a good way to break into cycles.

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    You need to read beginners cycles beacuse this cycle is a mess.Your Ai is off your HCG is off.Bro do some research before you hurt yourself.
    FWIW, I lurked and read posts for months before even creating a profile. Lots of info that's gonna keep you from doing something you'll regret. My advise is to listen to what these guys are telling you. What's another couple months to avoid a lifetime of injury/regret? Just my $0.02

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    I have to agree with the other posters. For a first-timer, you really want to keep it simple. 500mg / week of test is usually recommended because you need to see how it will affect you (as it will be the base of every cycle you do forever after) before you start adding other compounds with their own side effects. By adding one new compound with each cycle, you will always know which one is causing which side effect. Starting off with three will make it difficult for you to know which is doing what (both positive and negative effects), besides the fact that a simple test e cycle will give you great gains your first time around.

    I am often reluctant to comment on HCG because I haven't been able to find agreement about the proper protocol, even among veterans, and I don't have much experience with it myself. However, in this case I have to admit that your projected use of HCG looks odd. It doesn't coincide with any of the common dosing schemes I've read. I would suggest starting it much earlier in your cycle (starting at week 4 at the latest), and stopping it just before you start PCT. Many people increase their dosage from 500IU / week to 1000IU / week for the two weeks in between the cessation of test e and the start of PCT.

    Hope this helps

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