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    caber vs letro

    So after some more research and debating...im going with Atominis theory.
    Running lower test e / higher tren e. my problem is I keep getting conflicting threads and articles on letro. The profiles say letro will still do the trick..which I have on hand
    I cant even find caber! Wil letro still hold the sides down even kno they are not test sides?

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    Prami is available at ar-r

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    Letro will take care of the estrogen levels and prami or caber will control prolactin levels. As stated above, you can get prami at arr. You can use this rather than caber if you can't find it. Letro can crash your estrogen levels so it would probably be better to get some adex or aromasin to use in place of the letro.

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    Btw...going to run 100mg wk test e /300mg wk tren e ..12 wks
    May adjust later as needed

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    That cycle is so small its unlikely you'll even have any estrogen/progesterone/prolactin issues. Is this your second cycle or something? What r your stats homes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neevor View Post
    That cycle is so small its unlikely you'll even have any estrogen/progesterone/prolactin issues. Is this your second cycle or something? What r your stats homes?
    No, 4th cyle..first with tren
    Prior
    Test only
    Test,d bol,deca
    Test deca

    Was going to do 12 wks tren e 300 wk/ test e 500 or 600 12 wks.
    But then ive been reading start with higher tren and low test.
    36 yrs old
    16-18 %bf
    210lbs
    5'11''

    Been off cycle 2 yrs..

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    Quote Originally Posted by wes cst rydr View Post
    No, 4th cyle..first with tren
    Prior
    Test only
    Test,d bol,deca
    Test deca

    Was going to do 12 wks tren e 300 wk/ test e 500 or 600 12 wks.
    But then ive been reading start with higher tren and low test.
    36 yrs old
    16-18 %bf
    210lbs
    5'11''

    Been off cycle 2 yrs..
    Via..atominis stickey

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    Ok, add Ill just keep the letro on hand in case..running very low test so doubt ill need it. Ill grab prami or caber to go with the tren...thanks. Ill read up on them because im not familiar with the doses....any example doses would be great for reference

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    Why bother having to throw in ancilliary aromatase inhibitors when you can just keep the dose of aromatizable steroids at low enough levels that they won't aromatize very much? We're talking about testosterone primarily, here. That's the idea behind my theory.

    Caber is for controlling prolactin levels. Something totally different from what an AI such as Letro does.

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    By the way, if you can't find Cabergoline, then Pramiprexole will do. You can get it from AR-R.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomini View Post
    By the way, if you can't find Cabergoline, then Pramiprexole will do. You can get it from AR-R.
    I found the caber..
    But I am an arr fan.

    So my dosing is right and will be productive?!

    Tryn to clean up a little with some strength and size involved. Not realy shooting for a straight bulker or cutt..
    After I have this under my belt I want dial another in with more expierence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomini View Post
    By the way, if you can't find Cabergoline, then Pramiprexole will do. You can get it from AR-R.
    What is a proper dose for prami?

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    Quote Originally Posted by havanakid View Post
    What is a proper dose for prami?
    0.25-0.5 mg ED, ramped up though to avoid nausea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S&S_ShovelHead View Post
    0.25-0.5 mg ED, ramped up though to avoid nausea.
    Thanks amigo

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    If you control your E then in most cases there's no need for a dopamine agonist at all. I've run tren at fairly high doses with no dopamine agonist and just an AI and because E was kept in check so was prl. Look into the "long feedback mechanism" which is the method by which estrogen regulates prolactin. There is absolutely no conclusive evidence or study that shows that 19nors directly increase prl......

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    I guess 100mg test and 300mg tren seems really low but I've only ever run tren w equal amounts of test and masterone. It will be interesting to see what happens.

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