Another cycle after 5 years

[TUnit]

So I've been a member here for quite sometime, but been a while since I've been active. I have probably about 4 cycles under my belt. Experience with test, eq, tren, deca, and prop. I have a few questions about my up coming cycle I'm planning. I haven't touched anything in 5 years, just been busy with work, school, injuries, personal problems. I've still been working out regularly tho, taking some time off here and there to heal injuries I've had with my neck and shoulder. I'm planning on running test and eq for 15 weeks. My question is what should I run the test at since it's been years since I've cycled? I'm definitely running the eq at 600 as I feel anything less is a waste. The most I've cycled test at was 650 a week but was wanting to do 750, but starting to think I may not need that much. Any thoughts?

Btw...I'm 28, 6'1 @ 210 lbs at around 15%

[austinite]

So I've been a member here for quite sometime, but been a while since I've been active. I have probably about 4 cycles under my belt. Experience with test, eq, tren, deca, and prop. I have a few questions about my up coming cycle I'm planning. I haven't touched anything in 5 years, just been busy with work, school, injuries, personal problems. I've still been working out regularly tho, taking some time off here and there to heal injuries I've had with my neck and shoulder. I'm planning on running test and eq for 15 weeks. My question is what should I run the test at since it's been years since I've cycled? I'm definitely running the eq at 600 as I feel anything less is a waste. The most I've cycled test at was 650 a week but was wanting to do 750, but starting to think I may not need that much. Any thoughts?

Btw...I'm 28, 6'1 @ 210 lbs at around 15%

Hey TUnit.

Your stats look good for starting up again.

You'll probably get differing opinions on this, but I personally am not a fan of EQ. Most gains probably came from the other compounds that you ran along with it. EQ will raise RBC numbers to extreme elevations. Typically, increased hunger is about all it's good for. I personally would never inject the stuff. Too many better compounds out there

Now, as far as your 1st cycle after 5 years of no use, I would keep it simple with a Test E cycle @ 500mg weekly for 12 weeks.

[TUnit]

Well I always loved the vascularity I got from eq, and it always seemed to be easier on my body. The deca and tren shut me down pretty hard and the tren inflamed my prostate. I think I have a fairly sensitive prostate. However I still thought tren was the shit. Ridiculous gains and strength. I already bought the test and eq so I want to use them both, I just have to get my ai and pct. which I won't start until I have those obviously. Planning on starting in a month

[Metalject]

You could probably have some good success with test at 500mg/wk while keeping the EQ as you have it listed.

If you do have prostate issues, you definitely want to get that looked at before you start this next cycle. If you're good to go, you may also want to include a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor. Remember, the testosterone will convert to DHT and that can enlarge the prostate. EQ can also convert, actually to dihydroboldenone, but it's androgenicity is so reduced it shouldn't cause too much of a problem.

[marcus300]

I agree with the others 500mgs of test per week will be fine seeing that you have been off cycle for 5 yrs. Personally eq is a useless compound and doesnt aid any kind of muscle building so I would drop this but thats your choice to take...make sure you have a solid pct
best of luck

[MR10X]

Well I always loved the vascularity I got from eq, and it always seemed to be easier on my body. The deca and tren shut me down pretty hard and the tren inflamed my prostate. I think I have a fairly sensitive prostate. However I still thought tren was the shit. Ridiculous gains and strength. I already bought the test and eq so I want to use them both, I just have to get my ai and pct. which I won't start until I have those obviously. Planning on starting in a month

I am being treated for prostate cancer right now. Dont use a lot of test,it feeds the cancer if you have it.Im saying it will cause cancer but it will definately feed it,I have gleason 8 high grade cancer but it was caught soon and still is confined to my prostate. They have me on Eligard which shuts your test production down and shrinks the prostate and stops the cancer from growing any more...I have no test in my body now and will be like that for 8 months untill the radiation treatments are over and the cancer is destroyed. After that i can have normal levels of test....In 2009,2011 i did cycles of 600mg test week,350mg of tren A a week and 600 mg of Eq a week for 8 week cycles.I have never had an enlarged prostate and its not even enlarged now. I would get a PSA test done if you want to do AAS to see where you stand before you start a cycle,it is cheap and you can get your hormone levels checked at the same time. JUST BECAUSE YOUR PROSTATE IS NOT ENLAGRED DOESNT MEAN YOU DONT HAVE CANCER....THAT WAS THE CASE WITH ME......

[Metalject]

I am being treated for prostate cancer right now. Dont use a lot of test,it feeds the cancer if you have it.Im saying it will cause cancer but it will definately feed it,I have gleason 8 high grade cancer but it was caught soon and still is confined to my prostate. They have me on Eligard which shuts your test production down and shrinks the prostate and stops the cancer from growing any more...I have no test in my body now and will be like that for 8 months untill the radiation treatments are over and the cancer is destroyed. After that i can have normal levels of test....In 2009,2011 i did cycles of 600mg test week,350mg of tren A a week and 600 mg of Eq a week for 8 week cycles.I have never had an enlarged prostate and its not even enlarged now. I would get a PSA test done if you want to do AAS to see where you stand before you start a cycle,it is cheap and you can get your hormone levels checked at the same time.

First off, hate hearing you have prostate cancer and sincerely wish you the best and hope you make a full recovery.

The issue of testosterone feeding prostate cancer has been the common thought for decades, but more recently this idea has come under a lot of fire. Many findings have shown that low testosterone presents a much greater risk to prostate cancer than high levels.

[AD]

First off, hate hearing you have prostate cancer and sincerely wish you the best and hope you make a full recovery.

The issue of testosterone feeding prostate cancer has been the common thought for decades, but more recently this idea has come under a lot of fire. Many findings have shown that low testosterone presents a much greater risk to prostate cancer than high levels.

The observation is that prostate cancer is more common in older men even when they are already in andropause, compared with young men with raging test. But this observation is only looking at incidence. Whereas if someone already have prostate cancer, then additional test will surely make it worse.

[songdog]

I agree leave the test@ 500 and do as you wish with the Eq.Good luck Bro.

[MR10X]

The observation is that prostate cancer is more common in older men even when they are already in andropause, compared with young men with raging test. But this observation is only looking at incidence. Whereas if someone already have prostate cancer, then additional test will surely make it worse.

Im 66 years old,i started doing AAS 30 years ago and did 30 plus cycles.I never had an enlarged prostate and at 50 i had a PSA test and it was in normal range. 4 or 5 years ago i started doing cycles again but with higher doses than i ever used before.I had normal test levels before that and am not going TRT. I did about 8 cycles in the last 3 years using 600mg test a week plus other compounds for 8 week cycles,i did 1 12 week cycle. The thing is my cancer is HIGH grade cancer 8 on the gleason scale which is very agressive cancer. test more than likely didnt cause the cancer but it sure accelerated it.they stop your test production because it shrinks your prostate and makes the cancer smaller which makes it easier to treat,in fact they dont treat it untill your prostate has shrunk and they measure it with ultra sound imaging so they can map out where they will implant the titanium seeds that are radiated when they implant they and later they radiate again them from the outside for 5 weeks 5 times a week. This method is the most effective method to get rid of the cancer and is sucessful it elimanating the cancer in 90% of the patients.It is also has the least side effects. You dont want prostate cancer but if you get it and they find it soon enough it can elimanated. if they dont you will have some serious issues you dont want to deal with,like wearing a bag to pee in the rest of your life,no libido,trouble taking a shit,pain all the time.If it spreads it effects other organs like your bladder,lungs,liver,kidneys all stuff you dont think about untill it happens to you and you have to deal with it.Testerone feeds the cancer,it might not cause it but it makes it grow faster. Im lucky i dont have any other medical issues which makes treating the cancer in the best possible way like they are doing for me now. The outcome for me looks very good at elimating the cancer and getting back to normal in about 6 months and even having a normal test level again. working out and keeping muscle or gaining muscle without any test is very difficult to say the least,it also effects your other hormones also no test no estrogen,no DHT....You dont want problems in the area around your prostate,it effects more than you realize. At least have your PSA tested at least every 6 months to be safe and catch it early it makes things so much better when you do.

[MR10X]

First off, hate hearing you have prostate cancer and sincerely wish you the best and hope you make a full recovery.

The issue of testosterone feeding prostate cancer has been the common thought for decades, but more recently this idea has come under a lot of fire. Many findings have shown that low testosterone presents a much greater risk to prostate cancer than high levels.

They know now about test and prostate cancer now more than they have ever known,test does infact make it grow faster,they can actually treat it now but just permanately elimanating your testosterone, if its not a high grade or agressive level.There is no data showing that test causes the cancer at all high or low,it does have an effect on how fast it grows and spreads and thats the main thing,its like throwing gasoline on a fire.......

[AD]

The observation is that prostate cancer is more common in older men even when they are already in andropause, compared with young men with raging test. But this observation is only looking at incidence. Whereas if someone already have prostate cancer, then additional test will surely make it worse.

Im 66 years old,i started doing AAS 30 years ago and did 30 plus cycles.I never had an enlarged prostate and at 50 i had a PSA test and it was in normal range. 4 or 5 years ago i started doing cycles again but with higher doses than i ever used before.I had normal test levels before that and am not going TRT. I did about 8 cycles in the last 3 years using 600mg test a week plus other compounds for 8 week cycles,i did 1 12 week cycle. The thing is my cancer is HIGH grade cancer 8 on the gleason scale which is very agressive cancer. test more than likely didnt cause the cancer but it sure accelerated it.they stop your test production because it shrinks your prostate and makes the cancer smaller which makes it easier to treat,in fact they dont treat it untill your prostate has shrunk and they measure it with ultra sound imaging so they can map out where they will implant the titanium seeds that are radiated when they implant they and later they radiate again them from the outside for 5 weeks 5 times a week. This method is the most effective method to get rid of the cancer and is sucessful it elimanating the cancer in 90% of the patients.It is also has the least side effects. You dont want prostate cancer but if you get it and they find it soon enough it can elimanated. if they dont you will have some serious issues you dont want to deal with,like wearing a bag to pee in the rest of your life,no libido,trouble taking a shit,pain all the time.If it spreads it effects other organs like your bladder,lungs,liver,kidneys all stuff you dont think about untill it happens to you and you have to deal with it.Testerone feeds the cancer,it might not cause it but it makes it grow faster. Im lucky i dont have any other medical issues which makes treating the cancer in the best possible way like they are doing for me now. The outcome for me looks very good at elimating the cancer and getting back to normal in about 6 months and even having a normal test level again. working out and keeping muscle or gaining muscle without any test is very difficult to say the least,it also effects your other hormones also no test no estrogen,no DHT....You dont want problems in the area around your prostate,it effects more than you realize. At least have your PSA tested at least every 6 months to be safe and catch it early it makes things so much better when you do.

thats exactly my point.

good luck with your recovery. i think your advice of checking psa precycle is a very valid point, esp for the older users. me included!..lol. i probably will do that before my next round. thanks for sharing.