Arimidex- and HCG-doses for my cycle?

[Janejja]

Hi. I'm going on a 15 week cycle soon looking like this:

Week 1-15: test Prop 100mg ED
Week 5-10: Dbol 20mg ED

I have HCG and Arimidex on hand and want to runt small/moderate doses of each to help prevent gyno and to not shut myself down too much.

And before you say anything about it: no, I won't reconsider the HCG/Arimidex.

My questions are:

How much HCG per week do you recommend for my cycle? And should I up the dose while on dbol? And how should I administer the shots? I've heard 500ui e3d. Any good?

How much Arimidex for my cycle? And I'm only taking it to prevent gyno while on the cycle. And should I up the dose while on dbol? I've heard 0,25mg EOD if I'm on test only. What do you guys recommend?

[kelkel]

Don't need to run that cycle that long. EOD is fine for your prop.
No one here will try to talk you out of hcg and adex. You should run them during a cycle.
250 IU twice per will will work throughout for hcg.
.25 adex EOD is fine. Adjust if symptoms arise.

[BlueWaffle21]

Holy crap 15 weeks of prop!?!?!?

Why not drop that to the typical 8-10 or run a longer ester?

[stpete]

15 weeks and going to pin ED? That's too much even for me.

[Janejja]

About the length: I want to build mass, of course 15 weeks of 700mg ew will build more than 8-10 weeks of 700mg ew. So basically that's why.

Did you guys mean 15 weeks will mess up my body or simply be a pain because of all the pinning? I chose prop because of less sides than test E. First inject cycle probably will suck to pin ED but my will to do whatever it takes to build mass yet be safe is why I'm willing to pin ED.

How about when I'm on the dbol? Should I up the dose of adex/hcg then or run the same dose?

Keep 'em coming

[kelkel]

It's a short estered steroid. Just no need to run it that long. The risk/reward ratio is just not prudent. If it was Cyp or E then sure. No to upping the hcg and run your adex as listed above. Adjust if you notice issues. I know it's unheard of, or at least not usually said, but sometimes we can actually adjust down, not up.

[songdog]

1!st cycle is usually test only @500mg a week.You grow in steps not all at once.More isnt always better.

[stpete]

About the length: I want to build mass, of course 15 weeks of 700mg ew will build more than 8-10 weeks of 700mg ew. So basically that's why.

Did you guys mean 15 weeks will mess up my body or simply be a pain because of all the pinning? I chose prop because of less sides than test E. First inject cycle probably will suck to pin ED but my will to do whatever it takes to build mass yet be safe is why I'm willing to pin ED.

How about when I'm on the dbol? Should I up the dose of adex/hcg then or run the same dose?

Keep 'em coming

Far be it from me to try to stop someone from doing something, but listen man, i have been running AAS since 1997. And to be perfectly straight w/you, i would not run prop for that long. Especially now knowing this is your first real, pinning cycle! Do you know what scar tissue is? Chances are, it's going to be your best(probably worse) friend by the time this is over. Where do you plan on pinning for 15 weeks? The rotation? The amount? These are things that you seriously need to consider. I suggest you get some test e. Do yourself a favor.

And where did you hear that prop has less sides than test e? total bullshit.

[austinite]

Far be it from me to try to stop someone from doing something, but listen man, i have been running AAS since 1997. And to be perfectly straight w/you, i would not run prop for that long. Especially now knowing this is your first real, pinning cycle! Do you know what scar tissue is? Chances are, it's going to be your best(probably worse) friend by the time this is over. Where do you plan on pinning for 15 weeks? The rotation? The amount? These are things that you seriously need to consider. I suggest you get some test e. Do yourself a favor.

Completely agree.

[Janejja]

Far be it from me to try to stop someone from doing something, but listen man, i have been running AAS since 1997. And to be perfectly straight w/you, i would not run prop for that long. Especially now knowing this is your first real, pinning cycle! Do you know what scar tissue is? Chances are, it's going to be your best(probably worse) friend by the time this is over. Where do you plan on pinning for 15 weeks? The rotation? The amount? These are things that you seriously need to consider. I suggest you get some test e. Do yourself a favor.

And where did you hear that prop has less sides than test e? total bullshit.

Glutes and quads. Two places on each quad. So that's 6 places.

And why would for example a 10 week prop cycle be better than a 15 week cycle? Besides the pain of pinning 5 weeks more, why wouldn't 5 weeks more build more mass? The last 5 weeks will just not do anything? That sounds weird.

[jimmyinkedup]

Glutes and quads. Two places on each quad. So that's 6 places.

And why would for example a 10 week prop cycle be better than a 15 week cycle? Besides the pain of pinning 5 weeks more, why wouldn't 5 weeks more build more mass? The last 5 weeks will just not do anything? That sounds weird.

Im glad your asking questions. Thats how we all learn. So let me put this back on you...what makes prop better than test e ?

[Lord Me of There]

First cycle, pinning everyday? Lord guy listen to me and listen good. I'm 5.5 weeks into my first Test cycle and there's a thing called virgin muscle. Ever hear of that? Let me explain. Pain. It hurts. I shoot twice a week and for a couple days it aches pretty damn bad. I'm starting to get past that now, but I'm on my second go round and it isn't completly gone. So you're planning to pin virgin muscle everyday? Add in the burn of HcG and man, I hope you got a real comfortable mattress, you're going to be using it.

[Buster Brown]

When he jabs his leg for the first time with prop and can't walk straight for two days, at this point the lightbulb will come on. These guys are giving you great advice, take it! Be smart and learn from them.

[Janejja]

Well I have 10 vials of test P so it'll be test P So I guess... wish me good luck Hopefully I'll learn from the pain

As far as test P vs E: Prop's got shorter esters so less chanse of gyno and it'll kick in faster

[AdrenalineJunkie]

When he jabs his leg for the first time with prop and can't walk straight for two days, at this point the lightbulb will come on. These guys are giving you great advice, take it! Be smart and learn from them.

Exactly what I wanted to say. If you've never pinned before and you're starting with your quads you're headed for trouble. I think everyone who pins their quads has had a bad experience or several even if they know what their doing. Every day pinning at that amount and limited knowledge is a recipe for bad things to come.

Seriously, just start with test E. It's a much better choice for you especially with how long you want to run it. Your idea of prop having less side effects is completely false, the only side effect benefit with prop is that if they do occur they won't last as long because of its significantly shorter half life. However, I can tell you with your plan, you are significantly more likely to encounter said side effects than your odds with E.

[Buster Brown]

Who told you that Tes p will give you less chances of Gyno?, that is false. I understand you have a boatload of the stuff however, you have no idea how you will respond and everyone of these guys can tell you a story about prop that rings a familiar bell. If I were you, I would grab some Tes E and save the prop for down the road a little bit.

[Janejja]

Who told you that Tes p will give you less chances of Gyno?, that is false. I understand you have a boatload of the stuff however, you have no idea how you will respond and everyone of these guys can tell you a story about prop that rings a familiar bell. If I were you, I would grab some Tes E and save the prop for down the road a little bit.

Could tell me one of those stories?

[Janejja]

Would pinning 200mg EOD be better?