First cutting cycle. Test Prop, Clen and T3.

[teece]

So first post here, excited to see what it's like on these forums!
Currently weighing 83kg and 182cm (approx 6 foot 1). Body fat is approx 12% although I'm a pretty shit judge. I have been training for about 2 years and have a fairly comprehensive understanding of diet, workout routines and steroids.
My first cycle was meant to be 10 weeks of test cyp at 400mg/week. unfortunately shit went wrong and ended up cutting it to 8 weeks. still worked out well though, retained about 8kg after pct (admittedly a lot was water weight).
Planning on jumping on a cutting cycle next week, just waiting for order to be finalised. Would be looking at running test prop 100mgs EOD for 8 weeks, and Clen/T3 in two 2w on 2w off cycles, ramping up and down. PCT would be 3 weeks Nolva/Clomid (plenty left over from test c cycle).
I was really tempted to add in Masteron for 5 weeks at 400mg/wk, but can't justify the cost right now.probably will save it for next year when bf is lower.

Diet is currently:
M1: 3 eggs (scrambled) 1 piece wholemeal toast. 1 bannan.
M2: Can Tuna.
M3: 20 Almonds.
M4: 50g smoked salmon. 50g avocado.
M5: 200g chicken breast. 50g pad thai noodles.
Workout.
PW Shake: 40g Whey protein. 20g dextrose.
M6: Varies. Usually approx 50g green veges, 150g meat (sausages, patties), 50g complex carb source.
M7. 50g cottage cheese.
2200 cals. 193p. 73f. 193c.


Workout routine is:
Monday: Chest/Back. 20mins HIIT.
Tuesday: Legs/Abs.
Wednesday: Arms, 30mins cardio.
Thursday: Shoulders/Abs.
Friday: Chest/Back. 20 mins HIIT.
Saturday: Shoulders/Abs.

As mentioned, will be starting this cycle hopefully sometime next week. pics and progress will be posted and monitored.

any advice/recommendations/changes anyone can recommend before then would be greatly appreciated!

[austinite]

That's quite a run on the workout schedule. Im getting old, cant do 6 days in a row.

Welcome to the board. I don't want to clutter your thread here but I would like to recommend a good read, hopefully it can help if you're having doubts about running prop...

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...g-and-Steroids

[boxa06]

So first post here, excited to see what it's like on these forums!
Currently weighing 83kg and 182cm (approx 6 foot 1). Body fat is approx 12% although I'm a pretty shit judge. I have been training for about 2 years and have a fairly comprehensive understanding of diet, workout routines and steroids.
My first cycle was meant to be 10 weeks of test cyp at 400mg/week. unfortunately shit went wrong and ended up cutting it to 8 weeks. still worked out well though, retained about 8kg after pct (admittedly a lot was water weight).
Planning on jumping on a cutting cycle next week, just waiting for order to be finalised. Would be looking at running test prop 100mgs EOD for 8 weeks, and Clen/T3 in two 2w on 2w off cycles, ramping up and down. PCT would be 3 weeks Nolva/Clomid (plenty left over from test c cycle).
I was really tempted to add in Masteron for 5 weeks at 400mg/wk, but can't justify the cost right now.probably will save it for next year when bf is lower.

Diet is currently:
M1: 3 eggs (scrambled) 1 piece wholemeal toast. 1 bannan.
M2: Can Tuna.
M3: 20 Almonds.
M4: 50g smoked salmon. 50g avocado.
M5: 200g chicken breast. 50g pad thai noodles.
Workout.
PW Shake: 40g Whey protein. 20g dextrose.
M6: Varies. Usually approx 50g green veges, 150g meat (sausages, patties), 50g complex carb source.
M7. 50g cottage cheese.
2200 cals. 193p. 73f. 193c.


Workout routine is:
Monday: Chest/Back. 20mins HIIT.
Tuesday: Legs/Abs.
Wednesday: Arms, 30mins cardio.
Thursday: Shoulders/Abs.
Friday: Chest/Back. 20 mins HIIT.
Saturday: Shoulders/Abs.

As mentioned, will be starting this cycle hopefully sometime next week. pics and progress will be posted and monitored.

any advice/recommendations/changes anyone can recommend before then would be greatly appreciated!

Hey mate welcome to the board.

Your diet needs work in my opinion and should be fixed before beginning any cutting cycle.

[teece]

Hey mate welcome to the board.

Your diet needs work in my opinion and should be fixed before beginning any cutting cycle.

what would you change about diet mate? got about a week til i start, so pretty keen to use these next few days as an opportunity to sort out any issues.

[boxa06]

what would you change about diet mate? got about a week til i start, so pretty keen to use these next few days as an opportunity to sort out any issues.

Well for example meal 3 - 20 almonds. Post your diet up with meal times and macro breakdown for each meal and I'll make some suggestions to help.

[boxa06]

So first post here, excited to see what it's like on these forums!
Currently weighing 83kg and 182cm (approx 6 foot 1). Body fat is approx 12% although I'm a pretty shit judge. I have been training for about 2 years and have a fairly comprehensive understanding of diet, workout routines and steroids.
My first cycle was meant to be 10 weeks of test cyp at 400mg/week. unfortunately shit went wrong and ended up cutting it to 8 weeks. still worked out well though, retained about 8kg after pct (admittedly a lot was water weight).
Planning on jumping on a cutting cycle next week, just waiting for order to be finalised. Would be looking at running test prop 100mgs EOD for 8 weeks, and Clen/T3 in two 2w on 2w off cycles, ramping up and down. PCT would be 3 weeks Nolva/Clomid (plenty left over from test c cycle).
I was really tempted to add in Masteron for 5 weeks at 400mg/wk, but can't justify the cost right now.probably will save it for next year when bf is lower.

Diet is currently:
M1: 3 eggs (scrambled) 1 piece wholemeal toast. 1 bannan. add more egg whites and maybe only one yellow. Drop bread and banana and go for oats
M2: Can Tuna. size? Macros?
M3: 20 Almonds. this is not a meal on any diet
M4: 50g smoked salmon. 50g avocado. salmon is too fatty(I know they are good fats but not for cutting diet) so go for lean white fish or lean meat or chicken breast and add fibrous veg
M5: 200g chicken breast. 50g pad thai noodles.sweet potato or brown rice instead of noodles
Workout.
PW Shake: 40g Whey protein. 20g dextrose.
M6: Varies. Usually approx 50g green veges, 150g meat (sausages, patties), 50g complex carb source. lean meat? Lean sausage?
M7. 50g cottage cheese.
2200 cals. 193p. 73f. 193c.


Workout routine is:
Monday: Chest/Back. 20mins HIIT.
Tuesday: Legs/Abs.
Wednesday: Arms, 30mins cardio.
Thursday: Shoulders/Abs.
Friday: Chest/Back. 20 mins HIIT.
Saturday: Shoulders/Abs.

As mentioned, will be starting this cycle hopefully sometime next week. pics and progress will be posted and monitored.

any advice/recommendations/changes anyone can recommend before then would be greatly appreciated!

Made some suggestions to save time

[teece]

Made some suggestions to save time

thanks mate, will take on board.

[canuckcaleb]

20 Almonds is not a meal add something too it.

[teece]

20 Almonds is not a meal add something too it.

Thanks for suggestions, edited diet.

Meal 1: 5:30am: 3 eggs. 50g oats.
370 cals. 17 fat. 22 protein. 30 carbs.

Meal 2: Can tuna (John West 95g)
65 cals. 0 Carbs. 14 Protein. 1 Fat

Meal 3: 20 Almonds (can't think of better alternative, at work at time). Cup low-fat milk.
268 cals. 15 fat. 10 protein. 20 carbs.

Meal 4: 200g chicken breast. 1 cup chopped broccoli.
376 cals. 6 carbs. 70 protein. 8 fat.

Meal 5: 100g chicken breast. 50g brown rice.
356 cals. 40 protein. 40 carbs. 4 fat.

PWO shake: 40g protein. 20g carbs. 240 cals.

Meal 6: 150g lean meat (can't control source). 50g green veges. 50g carb source.
Approx: 500 cals. 40g carbs.50g protein. 15g fat.

Meal 7: 100g cottage cheese:
90 cals. 2 fat. 3 carbs. 14 protein.

Totals: 2270 cals. 265 protein. 61 fat. 160 carbs.

[boxa06]

Looks better! How about a simple protein shake for meal 3? Could you have that at work?

[boxa06]

Also work out your tdee because I think you may be starting too low in terms of caloric deficit

[teece]

Also work out your tdee because I think you may be starting too low in terms of caloric deficit

I could, but I don't wanna have my protein too high. I was aiming for about 180g initially, (1g/pound bodyweight).
Calculated my tdee at about 2800-3000 cals/day. different calculators give me different results :/

[boxa06]

I could, but I don't wanna have my protein too high. I was aiming for about 180g initially, (1g/pound bodyweight).
Calculated my tdee at about 2800-3000 cals/day. different calculators give me different results :/

Why would you not wonna have your protein too high??? You have to on a cutting diet especially.

I would start dieting at 2500 cals and go from there.

[teece]

Why would you not wonna have your protein too high??? You have to on a cutting diet especially.

I would start dieting at 2500 cals and go from there.

would you recommend filling up the remaining cals to get to 2500 with protein? would be about an extra 50g taking daily intake up to 310.

[boxa06]

would you recommend filling up the remaining cals to get to 2500 with protein? would be about an extra 50g taking daily intake up to 310.

Yes I would definitely add more protein to your diet.