NCAA Testing with Test E

[Athlete127]

Kinda discussed this the other day, but I finished my cycle Aug 9th (500mg test e weekly), and ran a PCT (clomid/nolva) which ended early September.

I got randomly tested Thursday morning (October 11) at 5:30AM. I even took a pre workout the day before that had banned 1.3 in it. I drank 2 gallons of water that night, and took strong multi vitamin 30 mins before test. It was exatly 9 weeks since my last shot...

What are your guys opinions? I'm waiting to either hear back that I failed, or I won't hear from them so it is a long bad feeling.

[austinite]

Hmm, borderline. 50/50 chance. You might get lucky. That stuff stays with you for 3 months.

[Athlete127]

Yeah, I seen that. I took a detox from GNC, but I know that was pointless basically. I wonder if I could say I have naturally high test levels? Since I mean, the test levels should be near normal by now.

But I am worried about that pre workout also.

[austinite]

Yeah, I seen that. I took a detox from GNC, but I know that was pointless basically. I wonder if I could say I have naturally high test levels? Since I mean, the test levels should be near normal by now.

But I am worried about that pre workout also.

That's not how it works

[Athlete127]

I am dreading this..... I know it was dumb! Just didnt' think I would get popped with a test right now.

[Sworder]

Hmm, borderline. 50/50 chance. You might get lucky. That stuff stays with you for 3 months.

Hope you get lucky, they measure a epitest ratio not for how high it is. This is why some athletes can ramp up their test as long as they are in the correct ratio. That's word on the street at least..

[Athlete127]

I honestly think I have naturally low levels, but not for sure.

I just hope this passes, because I am DONE if I fail !

[OnTheSauce]

Hope you get lucky, they measure a epitest ratio not for how high it is. This is why some athletes can ramp up their test as long as they are in the correct ratio. That's word on the street at least..

Would like more info on this

[Sworder]

The most basic test is a ratio check from epitestosterone:testosterone. Maybe a good question for Barry Bonds on how to get away with it. There is a lot of info on the testing of it in the baseball steroid articles I forgot what the term was they used for the stuff that keeps that ratio in check.

[Sworder]

Check through the list on people who have gotten caught for doping. Very few get caught for testosterone because it's so simple to skew the results.

[Athlete127]

What about the pre workout though? Hopefully I pissed that out with that 2 gallons of water.

[Sworder]

No detox will help you. Don't waste your money on it. It's not a regular drug test right? It's for PEDs?

[Athlete127]

No clue... all I know is, I pissed in a container, it was tested for warmth I guess, then sealed up and sent to a lab.

[Sworder]

Ok, well for rec drugs you can detox. Not your hormones.

[Honkey_Kong]

No detox will help you. Don't waste your money on it. It's not a regular drug test right? It's for PEDs?

Those detoxes wont really even help him on a regular drug test either.

[Sworder]

Those detoxes wont really even help him on a regular drug test either.

It's all hype? I have never been a rec drug guy but a few of my friends have had success with them. Could just be that the metabolites left early too IDK. I know that the detoxes are aimed towards rec drugs that's the depth of my inf0.

[OnTheSauce]

Glad my job only tests for rec drugs.

[Honkey_Kong]

It's all hype? I have never been a rec drug guy but a few of my friends have had success with them. Could just be that the metabolites left early too IDK. I know that the detoxes are aimed towards rec drugs that's the depth of my inf0.

Well one of the things those detoxes all have you do (if you follow the directions) you're supposed to drink a fvckload of water with them. And sometimes provided the right conditions the extra water can dilute the concentrations in your urine enough that you temporarily go undetected.

I've had quite a few friends use those detoxes for a drug test they had to pass or they'd get violated. Let's just say they ended up using all their confinement time.

Here look at supplement facts on this detox product you'll see what I mean. It gives a "hint" at the bottom of that section

http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?productId=11888479

[songdog]

Drug tests can detect if you water down your system.They are a lot different than the old tests.

[Honkey_Kong]

Drug tests can detect if you water down your system.They are a lot different than the old tests.

Most of them can now. Those detoxes are pretty much useless though.

[njs]

Hopefully you just piss water thats what drinking and flushing is so you pee water instead of your pee. I was tested 9 months after my last cycle and test e was still showing up so good luck

[njs]

Do you know what test it is i get test that tell me what kind and how much is in my system but if its a test that only looks for high levels you might be good. Does your pre workout come up a amphetamines because thats the only thing that comes up for me from it

[evander87]

Drug tests can detect if you water down your system.They are a lot different than the old tests.

How does that work? I mean I'm drinking enough water to "pee clear" all the time and I'm not drug tested. But how would they know I'm drinking an excessive amount to try and dilute the results?

[njs]

You have a creatin level thats in your body if its flushed you level will be low or not there but if you flush and drink creatin supplements you can trick the test

[Athlete127]

2 weeks since I have taken the test and no word.

[Brohim]

Kinda discussed this the other day, but I finished my cycle Aug 9th (500mg test e weekly), and ran a PCT (clomid/nolva) which ended early September.

I got randomly tested Thursday morning (October 11) at 5:30AM. I even took a pre workout the day before that had banned 1.3 in it. I drank 2 gallons of water that night, and took strong multi vitamin 30 mins before test. It was exatly 9 weeks since my last shot...

What are your guys opinions? I'm waiting to either hear back that I failed, or I won't hear from them so it is a long bad feeling.

I'm sure many guys in the NCAA and NFL take steroids. Why don't you ask them how to do it without getting detected? We aren't going to know shit because we aren't NFL or NCAA player's on this board. All I know is they test the ratio of testosterone and EP ratio's and if it's not higher than 6:1 ratio you are good.

Sounds like you didn't put much effort into hiding what you were doing and taking a banned pre-workout is dumb since there are a zazillion preworkouts out there. And sorry I don't know the detection time of Nolva or Clomid either.

And lastly, it could be worse. Lance Armstrong just got stripped from all his titles and he lost an estimated 100-200 million in endorsement contracts along with maybe having to payback all his tour winnings around 4 million.

[Noles12]

I'm sure many guys in the NCAA and NFL take steroids. Why don't you ask them how to do it without getting detected? We aren't going to know shit because we aren't NFL or NCAA player's on this board. All I know is they test the ratio of testosterone and EP ratio's and if it's not higher than 6:1 ratio you are good.

Sounds like you didn't put much effort into hiding what you were doing and taking a banned pre-workout is dumb since there are a zazillion preworkouts out there. And sorry I don't know the detection time of Nolva or Clomid either.

And lastly, it could be worse. Lance Armstrong just got stripped from all his titles and he lost an estimated 100-200 million in endorsement contracts along with maybe having to payback all his tour winnings around 4 million.

Passing the tests is all a matter of timing. Short esters in the off season during the periods when they never come and test, peptides during the season when you can get popped

[trackstar19]

Passing the tests is all a matter of timing. Short esters in the off season during the periods when they never come and test, peptides during the season when you can get popped

This, and hgh ALWAYS. Dosing depending on sport/position/money.

If they're only testing your test:epitest to make sure it's in range then you should be fine. Your test will not still be elevated from the test e. But if they are testing for the metabolites of various roids right off the bat (and not only testing for that if your test:epitest is high) then you've got a chance of being phucked. test e is detectable i believe for 2-3 months or so, so you're right on the boarder. Nothing you can do now, just hope for the best and be smarter next time. (IE: If you're going to cycle again only run phucking prop or better yet test suspension.)

[Athlete127]

Passed it!

[t-dogg]

From your last pin to the test how ling was it?

Also what is your bf%?

[Athlete127]

Think last pin was about Aug 15 or so.

BF prolly 8-9%