My first cycle.....looking for tips

[Perseverance1]

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[austinite]

Welcome!!

6'2" and 185 lbs is a bit on the lighter side. You might actually be leaner than 12%.

There are far too many compounds in your proposal for a 1st cycle. Certainly ditch the EQ. A first cycle should consist of Test only. And to be honest, I would wait a while until you can pack on another 10 lbs or so naturally.

400g of protein is excessive. Personally I would start in the nutrition section to get diet evaluated by the pros, then I would read the educational threads relating to first cycles.

Best of luck to you and again, welcome aboard!

[Perseverance1]

Thanks for the tips, but why do you think I should drop the EQ? Is it just because its my first cycle or because of something else?

You may be right about how lean I am....I'm a bit on the "skinny wimp" side right now, only been lifting again for 6 months since my hands have healed.

I'm going to go read a bit more about nutrition now...thanks for the warm welcome.

[austinite]

Thanks for the tips, but why do you think I should drop the EQ? Is it just because its my first cycle or because of something else?

You may be right about how lean I am....I'm a bit on the "skinny wimp" side right now, only been lifting again for 6 months since my hands have healed.

I'm going to go read a bit more about nutrition now...thanks for the warm welcome.

1. first cycle.
2. raises RBC too high
3. minimal gains, if any.
4. will just make you hungry.

[marcus300]

Welcome!!

6'2" and 185 lbs is a bit on the lighter side. You might actually be leaner than 12%.

There are far too many compounds in your proposal for a 1st cycle. Certainly ditch the EQ. A first cycle should consist of Test only. And to be honest, I would wait a while until you can pack on another 10 lbs or so naturally.

400g of protein is excessive. Personally I would start in the nutrition section to get diet evaluated by the pros, then I would read the educational threads relating to first cycles.

Best of luck to you and again, welcome aboard!

1. first cycle.
2. raises RBC too high
3. minimal gains, if any.
4. will just make you hungry.

Austnite looks like he's got this covered from all angles

agreed and co-signed with his advice ^^

[Lunk1]

The reason to drop the EQ is:

1)It is for the most part a one trick pony. It's only true benifit is making ppl hungry that have a hard time wanting to eat.

2)A first cycle should ALWAYS be Test only to help in determining where side affect are coming from.

Because of this^^^^^ you really should consider dropping all of the compounds you have listed and concentrate on a Test only cycle that is 500mg per week vs the 750 you are suggesting.

As Austin mentioned you would serve yourself best by working on nutrition and building a solid base to work with before considering AAS usage at all! Good luck man!

[Perseverance1]

Sounds good.

[BlueWaffle21]

Start here if you’re under 24:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...**-(GOOD-READ)

First Cycle Protocol

Test E or C for 12 weeks at 500mg per week. The 500mg is split between 2 shots that are 3.5 days apart, so Monday morning and Thursday evening for example.

Please see this thread by jimmyinkedup for further explanation: http://forums.steroid.com/showpost.p...59&postcount=5

You want to run and AI from day 1 of your cycle to control estrogen levels. You can use Arimidex or Aromasin to do so.

Please see this thread by Swifto for more info:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...n-cycle-Swifto

Proper PCT is needed to return your natural testosterone levels back to normal. This will involve the use of Clomid, which is up for debate with Atomini, Nolvadex, and Torem depending on which you decide on.

A recent post by Swifto explaining all your PCT option:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...Which-for-what

For more information regarding PCT start times:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94822

For more information regarding proper PCT:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...y-Steroid.com-)

HCG can be incorporated into your cycle and how to do so is debatable also. Most vets recommend 250 IU every 3.5 days starting in the second week up until the start of your PCT.

For more info please read Swifto’s HCG thread:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...mportant-is-it

Now that you have done some research, come up with a cycle and the forum will be happy to critique it for you and provide and adjustments needed.

[Perseverance1]

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hcg is injected subQ with slin pins, 29g or 30g according to personal preference and comfort. no big difference.

if you're on a bulk cycle, you probably dont have to be too frightened of carbs.

[Brick]

Start here if you're under 24:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...**-(GOOD-READ)

First Cycle Protocol

Test E or C for 12 weeks at 500mg per week. The 500mg is split between 2 shots that are 3.5 days apart, so Monday morning and Thursday evening for example.

Please see this thread by jimmyinkedup for further explanation: http://forums.steroid.com/showpost.p...59&postcount=5

You want to run and AI from day 1 of your cycle to control estrogen levels. You can use Arimidex or Aromasin to do so.

Please see this thread by Swifto for more info:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...n-cycle-Swifto

Proper PCT is needed to return your natural testosterone levels back to normal. This will involve the use of Clomid, which is up for debate with Atomini, Nolvadex, and Torem depending on which you decide on.

A recent post by Swifto explaining all your PCT option:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...Which-for-what

For more information regarding PCT start times:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94822

For more information regarding proper PCT:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...y-Steroid.com-)

HCG can be incorporated into your cycle and how to do so is debatable also. Most vets recommend 250 IU every 3.5 days starting in the second week up until the start of your PCT.

For more info please read Swifto's HCG thread:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...mportant-is-it

Now that you have done some research, come up with a cycle and the forum will be happy to critique it for you and provide and adjustments needed.

Can this whole post just POP up the instant someone tries to post in the anabolic section for the first time? Well done Waffle! Bonus points to you

[BlueWaffle21]

Can this whole post just POP up the instant someone tries to post in the anabolic section for the first time? Well done Waffle! Bonus points to you

I was thinking have it pop up when someone posts in the New Member section. I need to go back and revise it with some of the new stuff but it would save a lot of dumb questions if it popped up automatically!!

[Perseverance1]

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[John Andrew]

Any workout is better than nothing. Last 4 years i have had a spinal fracture, multiple leg fractures, 3 hernia ops and trained through the lot. Now I am getting back my squat and it hurts like hell cos there are all broken screws in my leg bones!

Bottom line is I was told I could never lift again! Doctors know so little and do nothing, just give bad advice. I was so lucky my 76 year old doctor told me to ignore them and just train. Age 57 and now deadlift 270 kgs. Squat is down to 180 but will go back, and I bench 145 kgs raw!

Doing nothing is dumb, trying is smart! Our body is amazing and it gets better, I would also just do the test alone first time. I do not use EQ, it gives me nothing. Its your body, see how it reacts to each compound! Take time and good luck, John

[BlueWaffle21]

I'm curious about your back injury, what exactly happened? I have a couple herniations in my spine and I've been able to move past them and they have yet to be an issue with my shoulders, deadlifts and squats yes but not shoulders.

[Perseverance1]

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