Liquid clen

[Bouch]

Looking to get some of the liquid Clen from ar-r. Anyone have a good cycle dosage plan with this?

186lbs
13%bf
25yo
5'10"

[t-dogg]

First time. 2wks on/off. start at 20mcgs and increase 20mcgs each day until sides are to much or you reach 120mcgs a day. Increase water to 2gallons a day. Take taurine and pass.

[Bouch]

First time. 2wks on/off. start at 20mcgs and increase 20mcgs each day until sides are to much or you reach 120mcgs a day. Increase water to 2gallons a day. Take taurine and pass.

Thanks t-dogg! Yes first time. So the first day is only 0.1ml and increase daily by that amount as long as sides are tolerable.

@ 1 ml = 200mcgs

[t-dogg]

yeah 20mcgs increase. Keep water intake very high. You should check your body temp before and during to see if its working right. also increase heart rate is something to watch.

[Bouch]

yeah 20mcgs increase. Keep water intake very high. You should check your body temp before and during to see if its working right. also increase heart rate is something to watch.

You want an increase in body temp, but do you also want increase in heart rate? Also have you tried keto with the Clen?

[Bouch]

Any one have some input on taking clen while on a cutting cycle? Is it safe? Is it better between cycles rather than on cycle?

Weeks 1-10 test 250 1ml 2x/wk = 500mg
Weeks 1-7 tren hex 150 0.75ml 2x/wk = 225mg
Week 4-11 l-dex 0.25mg EOD

PCT
Novla
40/40/20/20

Clomid
70/35/35/35

[t-dogg]

Yes thats what happens with clen. Yes ive ran clen 8wks straight with keto.


As far as cycles goes its up to you. Using clen on and off cycle both have there advantages.

[Bouch]

When using on cycle do you keep the dose lower than off cycle?

[ShredMN]

Here's a good question. Is clen safer than an ECA stack. Torn between the two for my next cutting phase.

[Buster Brown]

Idea behind using clen on cycle is that you wont burn muscle. The clen cycle protocol would be the same on or off cycle. If you use Keto(I haven't) then you can use less clen (need to do your homework on this) and run it continually. Clen and Eca affect people differently so it's hard to say how you will react. I prefer Eca as a training aid but hate the crash, I think clen is a more effective fat-burner but the sides are tough.

[Bouch]

Started with the liquid clen today. 20mcg today and Ill be increasing each day until i cant take the sides or hit 120mcg. How long after taking the dose does it start showing the sides? Is it normal to not feel anything on the first day at the 20mcg?

[Buster Brown]

I usually didn't feel the sides until 4 to 5 hours after taking it. Some days I'd cramp, somedays I wouldn't. Good idea to monitor your body temp to see how much it rises and check daily. I was up to 160 mcgs a day and after 12 days, body temp went back to normal. Everyone is different.

[t-dogg]

I feel for cutting clen is better to use then a eca stack. It helps save muscle.

I feel sides approximately 2hrs after i use it. I take mine on a empty stomach also.

[ShredMN]

I feel for cutting clen is better to use then a eca stack. It helps save muscle.

I feel sides approximately 2hrs after i use it. I take mine on a empty stomach also.

What about albuterol. Does that also preserve muscle in a deficit? Or have you only had experience with clen?

[t-dogg]

What about albuterol. Does that also preserve muscle in a deficit? Or have you only had experience with clen?

Ive never used albuterol. Its not as strong as clen.


I only use clen and gw501516 for cutting. Gw501516 is my preferred way.

[Bouch]

Ive never used albuterol. Its not as strong as clen.


I only use clen and gw501516 for cutting. Gw501516 is my preferred way.

I have never heard of it before. I just googled it and it looks very attractive.

[t-dogg]

I have never heard of it before. I just googled it and it looks very attractive.

Its better in every way imo. Only down side is price in liquid form. Powder is much cheaper.

[Bouch]

which is better powder or liquid in your opinion?

[t-dogg]

which is better powder or liquid in your opinion?

The source is what matters. Powder is cheaper.

[The Kernal]

The source is what matters. Powder is cheaper.

It seems that GW has more of an effect on the Cardio Vascular system, and endurance but not specifically on fat burning?

I just got ordered some clen gel

[t-dogg]

It seems that GW has more of an effect on the Cardio Vascular system, and endurance but not specifically on fat burning?

I just got ordered some clen gel

Incorrect. I increase endurance while on and have better fat loss then clen. No sides compared to clen.

[The Kernal]

Incorrect. I increase endurance while on and have better fat loss then clen. No sides compared to clen.

Well maybe it has no immediate side affects. But it hasn't been studied enough to see if it has any long term effects.

Also, if GW is superior to clen, why don't many people use it?

[t-dogg]

Well maybe it has no immediate side affects. But it hasn't been studied enough to see if it has any long term effects.

Also, if GW is superior to clen, why don't many people use it?

Wells its only been around for a few years. Most people never even heard of it.

Imo clen is old and basically out dated. Does it work, yes. Is there better options, very much so.


Gw501516 has other uses as well.

The olympics banned it for a reason, it works.

[The Kernal]

Wells its only been around for a few years. Most people never even heard of it.

Imo clen is old and basically out dated. Does it work, yes. Is there better options, very much so.


Gw501516 has other uses as well.

The olympics banned it for a reason, it works.

Interesting. yeh i only just heard about it.

Why do think clen is outdated?

And are you aware of any other effective fat burning compounds? (other then gw, albuterol, dnp etc)

[t-dogg]

Interesting. yeh i only just heard about it.

Why do think clen is outdated?

And are you aware of any other effective fat burning compounds? (other then gw, albuterol, dnp etc)

Clen works, but it puts alot of stress on the body imo. With gw501516 i didnt/dont feel taxed on it. Also i know a few people who have used it and had blood work done while on it. Both parties bw came back better then before.

There are others but they fall in the lines of peptides, serms, ext.

[Doont-Hunter]

Clen works, but it puts alot of stress on the body imo. With gw501516 i didnt/dont feel taxed on it. Also i know a few people who have used it and had blood work done while on it. Both parties bw came back better then before.

There are others but they fall in the lines of peptides, serms, ext.

Hey T-Dogg, I'n thinking about running GW during my PCT for four weeks, and then an additionally two weeks after. What dose do you recommend for a first time GW user? I've been doing some research today about it, and it seems much safer and as good, if not better in some cases than Clenbuterol. Any help would be great mate.

[t-dogg]

Hey T-Dogg, I'n thinking about running GW during my PCT for four weeks, and then an additionally two weeks after. What dose do you recommend for a first time GW user? I've been doing some research today about it, and it seems much safer and as good, if not better in some cases than Clenbuterol. Any help would be great mate.

I would start at 5mgs and increase from there. Normal doses are from 5-20mgs. Ive seen/heard of others running up to 40mgs, but no effects from it really. I would also split it after you are above 5mgs.

[Anxnymous]

Clen is amazing and a lot safer then DNP. My cutting cycle with clen:
Clen, Day 1-2: 40mcg
3-4: 60mcg
5-6: 80mcg
7-8: 100mcg
9-14: 120mcg
T3:
Week 1: 15mcg/ed
Week 2: 27.5mcg/ed
Week 3: 40mcg/ed
Week 4: 52.5mcg/ed
Week 5: 65mcg/ed
Week 6: 52.5mcg/ed
Week 7: 40mcg/ed
Week 8: 27.5mcg/ed
Tren: Week 1-8: 400mgs/w
Test Prop: Week 1-8: 250mgs/w

[Bouch]

for clen once you reach 80mcg and above how should you split it throughout the day? 2x/day 3x/day to equal the total dosage.

[Anxnymous]

It doesnt really matter, if its your first time probably split it. wouldnt hurt

[t-dogg]

I take all 120mcgs all at once. Or you can split it 60/60.

[Bouch]

Question. How much taurine needs to be taken daily? What does the taurine do for our body while on clen? How often should I take a potassium supplement? Or should the potassium be only used if cramps are there and then how much would you suggest taking at that point?

[The Kernal]

Question. How much taurine needs to be taken daily? What does the taurine do for our body while on clen? How often should I take a potassium supplement? Or should the potassium be only used if cramps are there and then how much would you suggest taking at that point?

Not too sure about taurine, think it cleanses your receptors but not 100% what im talking about. lol.

Potassium can be found in bananas, so having a banana a day would be enough apparently. (this is just from what Ive been told)

[jenwilgo]

I'm new so, I hope you guys don't mind me popping in here. I've been keeping up with your thread Bouch, since I'm planning on going with clen also. Tdogg was helpful to me in the thread that I started a few days ago. Sounds like he's pretty knowledgable on this stuff. Thanks Tdogg!

I have done a ton of research on clen, and from my understanding, 200-400 mg of potassium and 3-5 g of Taurine is recommended. It appears that most people take the clen in the morning, keto at night. Is that correct Tdogg?

Also, should the potassium & Taurine be taken in the morning, along with the clen?

[alpenguy]

Incorrect. I increase endurance while on and have better fat loss then clen. No sides compared to clen.

You are the first i have read using this. Very interested in how it affects cardiovascular endurance-strain on the heart, etc. Any hard evidence?
Thx.

[Bouch]

Question. How much taurine needs to be taken daily? What does the taurine do for our body while on clen? How often should I take a potassium supplement? Or should the potassium be only used if cramps are there and then how much would you suggest taking at that point?

anyone else like to chime in?

[t-dogg]

You are the first i have read using this. Very interested in how it affects cardiovascular endurance-strain on the heart, etc. Any hard evidence?
Thx.

Well Ive run both, so I can speak from my evidence. There are alot of studies you can find. Gw501516 isnt like clen being it raises the heart rate or gives any heart issues. Only sides you can have are sweets at night "which I had for 2-3 days" and the price IF you buy liquid form.



Oh and it tastes Grain alcohol, which isnt very good.

[Bouch]

hey t-doog how much potassium should I take while on the clen cycle?

[t-dogg]

Personally I feel it varies. If you dont cramp like me no need to increase it. If you do, just eat 2-3 bannanas.

[lstbred]

First time. 2wks on/off. start at 20mcgs and increase 20mcgs each day until sides are to much or you reach 120mcgs a day. Increase water to 2gallons a day. Take taurine and pass.

I take taurine but had a few cramps still, I havent upped my water but I will now.