Trenbolone Acetate and Estradiol

[CaMeLoT]

Hi guys,

Recently I've bought Tren A (Vermodje Trenaver) and my estro level was increased dramatically (from 60-70 to 1000).

I've read one article that says that there is Tren A called "Revalor" which contains TA and some estro.

Have you ever had any estro related issues using Tren A?

What Tren should I buy to keep my estro level in normal range?

[austinite]

You don't buy more/different tren to lower estro. What else are you taking and are you on an AI at all?

Post your bloodwork please if you can. Those numbers are outrageous.

[CaMeLoT]

Here is blood work I did using Test P 50 mg ED and Aromasin 12.5 mg ED: E2 (estro) 76.63

And here is blood work I did using Test P 50 mg ED, Aromasin 12.5 mg ED and Tren A 50 mg ED: E2 (estro) 971.7.

My friend has same Tren A and same issues as well.

[OnTheSauce]

sounds like you bought injectible estrogen.

[Buster Brown]

Yikes, time to switch brands.

[lance1337]

Do you guys think it could be Tren A mixed with estradiol (-revalor)? Or just pure E2 and a complete fake? We did have some of the tren related sides like shortness of breath or rage for instance, though I think those could be caused by huge estro levels.
The strange thing is we didn't have any gyno issues at all while i'm actually very prone to gyno, my nipples start itching even while running 350-500mgs of test without an ai.

[Atomini]

There have often been issues of UGL's converting Fina pellets of a particular brand (I forgot which) that is used for cattle which has estrogen in it as well.

[venturac]

The only tren ace pellets u use are finaplix-h. Do not use revalor. As u mentioned in contains estrogen. Sounds like u got some bad stuff man

[MickeyKnox]

Here is blood work I did using Test P 50 mg ED and Aromasin 12.5 mg ED: E2 (estro) 76.63

And here is blood work I did using Test P 50 mg ED, Aromasin 12.5 mg ED and Tren A 50 mg ED: E2 (estro) 971.7.

My friend has same Tren A and same issues as well.

If I were you I would post this in the HRT forums immediately for them to see this and comment. I think your e levels are dangerously high, and if this is not addressed as soon as possible you may in more trouble than you think.

Please get a handle on this asap.

[Bonaparte]

So...you're not going to keep using it, right?

[austinite]

There have often been issues of UGL's converting Fina pellets of a particular brand (I forgot which) that is used for cattle which has estrogen in it as well.

All Fina pellets are required to have estrogen.

[CaMeLoT]

So...you're not going to keep using it, right?

No, I discontinued it.

[lance1337]

We stopped using it right when we saw our bloodwork results (after like 5 injections). And I think that was some short estro ester, so it should be going down soon, though in any case we're going to have our estro checked again in a few days.
The question is if Vermodje really makes Revalor instead of pure Tren Ace or it's just a fake. It isn't mentioned on the packing though. And we're quite sure our source is reliable and that this Tren arrived right from the factory btw.

[Bonaparte]

All Fina pellets are required to have estrogen.

Finaplix H has never contained estradiol. You're thinking of Synovex (test prop).

[kelkel]

Get a sensitive estrogen assay when you test....

[measuretwicecutonce]

There have often been issues of UGL's converting Fina pellets of a particular brand (I forgot which) that is used for cattle which has estrogen in it as well.

this is the first thing that popped in my head..

[lovbyts]

Finaplix H has never contained estradiol. You're thinking of Synovex (test prop).

That's what I was thinking. It seems the last 6 months Fina H is very had to find and Ill bet there are a lot of people out there who are using the Synovex since most only care about profit and not about individuals or clients.

[jpowell]

man this is a blessing! hopefully all the noobs and even vets who dont believe in bw take a look at this thread. and never doubt it in the future but see why its so important to have it done.

[austinite]

Well it's a good thing I don't brew, I thought H wasn't even made anymore. S only, which does contain estra. Argh. Bona to the rescue once again. Go get your kill room setup, I'm ready...

[CaMeLoT]

It's so depressing to start take tren for cutting and then realize that your estro is 40 times more then normal range .

[venturac]

Finaplix H has never contained estradiol. You're thinking of Synovex (test prop).

Yes that is correct. Finaplex-h never had estrogen

[venturac]

Well it's a good thing I don't brew, I thought H wasn't even made anymore. S only, which does contain estra. Argh. Bona to the rescue once again. Go get your kill room setup, I'm ready...

I just bought some a few weeks ago from allyvet but its way better to buy raw and brew it. Get a good connect and you don't have to fool with all that bullshit

[austinite]

I just bought some a few weeks ago from allyvet but its way better to buy raw and brew it. Get a good connect and you don't have to fool with all that bullshit

I have no interest in brewing and never have to deal with "Bullshit".

[venturac]

I have no interest in brewing and never have to deal with "Bullshit".

Oh ok. No disrespect intended

[austinite]

Oh ok. No disrespect intended

I know I was just saying I hate brewing

[venturac]

I know I was just saying I hate brewing

Ever since I've brewed fina and found a good raw source I love brewing!!!

[jpowell]

i brewed something once. wasnt tren tho, does that count?--lol nada else to contribute here.

[venturac]

i brewed something once. wasnt tren tho, does that count?--lol nada else to contribute here.

Of course that counts! What did u brew?

[lance1337]

I've done bloodwork 6 days after I canceled that tren.
Estradiol is 74, running test prop solo atm. And it was 966 when running 'tren' + prop

[Bonaparte]

That stuff definitely contained straight estrogen, and maybe no tren at all.

[lance1337]

Can somebody please tell me if this tren looks legit or fake? It's Trenabol 100 British Dragon Thailand

[jpowell]

Purple tops?

Never saw them. Do u have a (mind freeze) ...halo gram?

How new is this?

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[lance1337]

There is a hologram (BD letters on the second photo) but I can't scratch it, I mean there are no authentification numbers.
The manufacture date on the bottle is june 2011 but I've bought it a few days ago.

I've done the first injection today and I feel nothing except tiredness and probably a bit of agression, my training went bad. Have been also running test prop for 2 weeks now.
Should I feel some tren sides within a few days in case my tren is legit? Going to have my bloodwork checked in a few days also

Last time my tren turned out to be revalor I think or just pure estradiol, you can see it in my previous posts.

[jpowell]

theres a seperate hologram dead center of where the label stops--
shod be some batch numbers or sumthing to id.

it could turn out to be legit, but just from what ive seen, good chance its fake.

your in the ukraine--plenty of guys over there with quality gear bro-

[lance1337]

There are no numbers at all except the manufacture and expiration dates if i'm not blind. So no doubt it's fake because of that? I'm just gonna hope it's a working fake and that it actually contains some Tren A then..
Had some sort of insomnia at night and my dreams became like more real, but then again I've just woken up and I'm already broken. (placebo probably)
Didn't understand if it was irony, but it's actually very hard to find good gear here, like 50-70% of the market is fake.

And btw I know vermodje trenaver we had before was like 99% real, came right from the factory in Moldova. And in spite of this our estro jumped rockethigh while running it and went down when we canceled it, though they claim they produce pure Tren A not revalor or some other bullshit and they have an extremely good reputation here. It's just so depressing, I'm already having some paranoid thoughts that I have some kind of allergy to tren..

[lance1337]

NEED HELP GUYS!

After having canceled Vermodje trenaver 50mgs e.d. my estro went from 1000 to 75 in 6 days, was running prop solo 50mgs e.d. at that moment.
Then I started injecting BD Tren A Thailand (photos in my post above) 50mgs e.d. also + prop 50mgs e.d. + arimidex (took 1g two days before the bloodwork) + proviron 50mgs e.d (for 2 days before the bloodwork). After injecting it for about 4 days I had my bloodwork done. And now I've received the results - estradiol raised again!! and it's 523 (normal range 7,6-42,6), prolactin is 9,4 (normal range 4-15), progesterone is 1,5 (normal range 0,2-1,4) and SHBG is 46 (normal range 14,5-48,5).
2 times I took Tren and 2 times my estro went up so high. (I'll remind you the first time my friend took same Tren as me and his estro also raised like 30 times)

What could it be? Estradiol+Tren (or just pure estradiol) in 2 different bottles of 2 different manufacturers?
Could it be some bad equipment in the laboratory where I always have my bloodwork done? I mean could it react to some other hormones etc. and show it as high E2?
Could it be some specific reaction to Tren or some allergy?

I just don't know what to think now. Please help someone!
Ordered another bottle of tren which I am sure is 100% legit. What if my estro goes up AGAIN?

[pjliftsalot]

Finaplix H has never contained estradiol. You're thinking of Synovex (test prop).

Actually he is correct. That is why they discontinued the manufacture of finaplix a couple years ago and replaced it with revalor. The only finaplix availble is left over inventory.

[athletic.guy]

Any updates on this? Why does tren shoot estrogen so high in some people?