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    Exclamation Extending 1st test prop cycle with test cyp

    Hi all

    Long time lurker but just joined.

    Stats.
    Age: 27
    Height: 6'
    Weight: 171lb
    BF: 14%

    I've just finished a six week test prop only cycle (420mg/week pinned daily). I've managed to gain about 13lb of mostly lean muscle over this time. My AI is letrozole (because I'm gyno prone and adex was too expensive) and I take 0.125mg/day. I've hardly had any side effects except for some aggression and water retention early on.

    I wanted to extend the cycle for a few more weeks, so I bought a 10ml vial of test cyp (200mg/ml) as test prop is too expensive. I plan to pin EOD (instead of twice weekly, mainly because my syringes are only 1ml) at 490mg/week. I understand that this is the same amount of free test as 420mg of test prop.

    My problem is that I understand that test cyp is a longer acting ester, so what would happen until it starts acting. I'm all out of test prop as of yesterday and just started pinning test cyp.

    Should I inject more in the first few days to get it to act quickly?

    Should I increase my letro dose to prevent the estrogen rebound?

    I've also got nolvadex and HCGenerate on hand for PCT. Maybe I should take them now?

    Also how does this affect my PCT? I had planned to start taking nolva (40/40/20/20) as soon as I'd finished my test prop cycle. I've been advised to wait two weeks after finishing a test cyp cycle.

    Thanks all.

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    It wouldn't be a smart idea to continue the cycle. You should have overlapped the cyp and prop by at least 3 weeks.

    Just take your 13 pounds of lean mass, and run with it. Most would recommend adding clomid at 50/50/25/25 to your PCT because that's your powerhouse chem for restoring natural LH/FSH and just restoring your HPTA in general.

    since your prop cycle was so short, youll be fine to jump on another cycle in 2.5 months after PCT.

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    bad idea...you already finished the prop whenever and have not started long ester. So as your system is starting it's return your going to dump on it again and for not a long enough time to do any good. Nope bad idea!

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    Quote Originally Posted by drop9k View Post
    Hi all

    Long time lurker but just joined.

    Stats.
    Age: 27
    Height: 6'
    Weight: 171lb
    BF: 14%

    I've just finished a six week test prop only cycle (420mg/week pinned daily). I've managed to gain about 13lb of mostly lean muscle over this time. My AI is letrozole (because I'm gyno prone and adex was too expensive) and I take 0.125mg/day. I've hardly had any side effects except for some aggression and water retention early on.

    I wanted to extend the cycle for a few more weeks, so I bought a 10ml vial of test cyp (200mg/ml) as test prop is too expensive. I plan to pin EOD (instead of twice weekly, mainly because my syringes are only 1ml) at 490mg/week. I understand that this is the same amount of free test as 420mg of test prop.

    My problem is that I understand that test cyp is a longer acting ester, so what would happen until it starts acting. I'm all out of test prop as of yesterday and just started pinning test cyp.

    Should I inject more in the first few days to get it to act quickly?

    Should I increase my letro dose to prevent the estrogen rebound?

    I've also got nolvadex and HCGenerate on hand for PCT. Maybe I should take them now?

    Also how does this affect my PCT? I had planned to start taking nolva (40/40/20/20) as soon as I'd finished my test prop cycle. I've been advised to wait two weeks after finishing a test cyp cycle.

    Thanks all.
    This is a mess. You're a mess.

    Why on earth would you wait until you've run out of testosterone propionate before asking this very important question. And why wouldn't you have your PCT straightened out before beginning this cycle? Both, rhetorical questions.

    As Lunk has already told you, you cannot go from a short ester to a long ester without including the short ester until the long ester clears your system.

    hCG does not belong in PCT. It is to be included on cycle to prevent testicular atrophy.

    Begin your PCT and run your long estered cycle at another time when you have ALL your test, SERM's, AI's, and hCG, on hand BEFORE you begin. Pick up some clomid from your source or from our sponsor AR-R and run that with your nolva. If you're not sure, ask questions here and someone will help you. Don't listen to your friends or your gym buddies. And smarten up next time.

    Good luck.

    Clomid 75/50/50/50
    Nolva 40/20/20/20

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    Thanks everyone. Will stop taking cyp and end the cycle now as per your collective advice . Will also get Clomid as you recommended.

    Just one more thing though, should I start PCT now or wait two weeks. I've been on prop for 42 days (+ just one cyp shot).

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    Now.

    Assuming last prop injection was 3 days ago..if not, wait out the ester.
    Last edited by MickeyKnox; 11-07-2012 at 05:50 PM.

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    Next time make sure you have enough for your cycle.Plus a lil extra in case you break a vial.

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