3rd cycle crituqe!! (NPP,PROP,MDROL)

[3figurez]

Age: 25 (4 days off 26) getting old now!!
Weight: 88kg (193.6lbs)
Height: 178cm
BF: 12%

Just a little bit of back ground, my first cycle was:
Week 1-8: test e (500/wk)
Nolva 40/30/20/20

Second cycle was:
Week 1-8: test e (500/wk)
Week 1-4 mdrol 10mgED/10mgED/10mgED/20mgED/20mgED
Nolva 40/40/20/20

For my THIRD cycle I was looking at something like this.. Please critique if necessary
Week 1-8: test prop 125mg EOD
Week 1-8: NPP 100mg EOD
week 1-4: mdrol 20mg ED
Week 1-10: Liquidex .5mg EOD (on pinning days)
PCT
Week 8-12: Nolva 40/40/20/20

Starting PCT 2 days after last pin.

Crituqe if necessary!!
Thanks guys!!

[warmouth]

First thing I noticed is that you need to run a stronger PCT. I would get BW done before you start to see where your test levels currently stand. For PCT, you need to add clomid to this. If I were you, I would even run PCT an extra week this time, but at lower doses on the final week. I wouldnt run any prohormones at all. To heck with those. I think they are way more harmful than Dbol and dont do anything "special" that Dbol wouldnt. If you insist on running an oral, I would run some liver protection like NAC and/or UDCA. Better safe than sorry.

[3figurez]

First thing I noticed is that you need to run a stronger PCT. I would get BW done before you start to see where your test levels currently stand. For PCT, you need to add clomid to this. If I were you, I would even run PCT an extra week this time, but at lower doses on the final week. I wouldnt run any prohormones at all. To heck with those. I think they are way more harmful than Dbol and dont do anything "special" that Dbol wouldnt. If you insist on running an oral, I would run some liver protection like NAC and/or UDCA. Better safe than sorry.

I take milk thistle daily bro, will this do the trick? And clomid just run 50/50/50/50?

[stpete]

The prop and npp is a good cycle by itself and the dosages are good.

Clomid 50/50/25/25

[Lunk1]

Drop the oral entirely! Start your PCT 3 days after last pin at Clomid 100/50/50/50 and Nolva at 40/20/20/20

Done did deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You should also consider using HCG during cycle and keeping either Prami or Caber on hand to deal with Prolactin from the 19nor!

[warmouth]

Milk Thistle, unless taken in HUGE doses, arent going to do a think to protect your liver from abusing it with orals. NAC and or UDCA are the ONLY opitions in my opinion. I use milk thistle daily, but not a doses large enough to protect the liver. I also use NAC everyday. I am not on cycle, I just like taking stuff Strengthen up that PCT and drop the oral. Your going to do good with the test/NPP as long as you are willing to do good.

[3figurez]

Milk Thistle, unless taken in HUGE doses, arent going to do a think to protect your liver from abusing it with orals. NAC and or UDCA are the ONLY opitions in my opinion. I use milk thistle daily, but not a doses large enough to protect the liver. I also use NAC everyday. I am not on cycle, I just like taking stuff Strengthen up that PCT and drop the oral. Your going to do good with the test/NPP as long as you are willing to do good.

Ok I'm taking Lunk's advice with PCT with Nolva 40/20/20/20 and clomid 100/50/50/50, how come u guys reckon drop the oral? I got mad gains off mdrol last time with test e

[Lunk1]

Ok I'm taking Lunk's advice with PCT with Nolva 40/20/20/20 and clomid 100/50/50/50, how come u guys reckon drop the oral? I got mad gains off mdrol last time with test e

Quite honestly your "mad gains" were most likely test and diet related. My experience with Prohormones is that if it hasnt been banned then its junk nad even then the dosage I required to see result were 3-4X the prescribed. This is alot of uneccessary liver stress. NPP along with Test is such a great cycle that the junk oral would never shine so why add unneeded risks??

[3figurez]

Quite honestly your "mad gains" were most likely test and diet related. My experience with Prohormones is that if it hasnt been banned then its junk nad even then the dosage I required to see result were 3-4X the prescribed. This is alot of uneccessary liver stress. NPP along with Test is such a great cycle that the junk oral would never shine so why add unneeded risks??

Haha! Alright man yeh ill drop the oral then, does seem to be a waste when u put it that way, Thanks for the advice though! Just little on edge about the cork from the prop! I do security so that's the last thing I need! Lol is it true that it lasts up to 2 days?

[Lunk1]

Haha! Alright man yeh ill drop the oral then, does seem to be a waste when u put it that way, Thanks for the advice though! Just little on edge about the cork from the prop! I do security so that's the last thing I need! Lol is it true that it lasts up to 2 days?

Your refering to PIP and it is different for everyone. I havnt gotten it since my first cycle. I firmly believe that the 2 biggest reasons are the amount of BA and BB in the solution and more importantly, a steady hand. Make sure you use good sterilization tecniques and are nice and steady. This will minimize issues. Most likely you will still get some but I just embrace it...enjoy it. Its like a feeling of a deep bruise for a few days. DO NOT rub the injection site after pinning and if it gets bad use a heating pad for a bit!

[3figurez]

Your refering to PIP and it is different for everyone. I havnt gotten it since my first cycle. I firmly believe that the 2 biggest reasons are the amount of BA and BB in the solution and more importantly, a steady hand. Make sure you use good sterilization tecniques and are nice and steady. This will minimize issues. Most likely you will still get some but I just embrace it...enjoy it. Its like a feeling of a deep bruise for a few days. DO NOT rub the injection site after pinning and if it gets bad use a heating pad for a bit!

So don't massage it in after pin? Does it happen after every pin or just the first one bro? Yeh I have a few heating pads at the moment. They work wonders after the "virgin muscle" pain lol

[Lunk1]

No...massaging the injection site can increase trauma and make things worse. Some pins yes...some no...lol!

[3figurez]

No...massaging the injection site can increase trauma and make things worse. Some pins yes...some no...lol!

So prop.. A big fat NO NO? Haha