First Cycle looking for advice

[Not_Natty]

Hey guys, I am a new member on this forum but have been researching into steroids for a while now. I have decided to do my first cycle ever. I have decided to use Mechabol as I have been reading a lot of great things about it. Before I buy everything I need I have some questions that I was hoping you guys can answer.

My Stats:
5'9
165 pounds 10% BF
Age: 23


I put together a stack that I think is looking pretty good, but would like to get some second opinions.

Pre load (2 weeks)

Liver care all of January (Just to make sure my livers working great before cycle)
Hawthorne Berry Last two weeks of January

Or maybe run AI Life Support for 2 weeks. Is this a good idea instead of running the hawthorne berry?




6 Week Mechabol cycle

Mechabol (2 bottles) 75/75/75/100/100/100 (I believe this is what others are doing)
Liver Care
AI Life support
Fish Oil
BCAA
Glutimine
CLA
Taurine
DAA (Starting last week of cycle)


PCT

Nolva 20/20/20/20
DAA
BCAA
Glutimine
Creatine Monohydrate
Liver Care


How does that look? I know I might have gone overboard with the support supps, but I rather be safe than sorry. What would you remove or add and why?


Im going to be getting my Nolva from Ar-r as I am reading great things about them.

Also, I have spend some time in the PCT forums on this site and am noticing a lot of people saying they are not recovering and are having really bad sex drive and depression after their cycle. Should I be concerned? I never saw so many people having a negative effect until I started reading this specific forum.


Thanks Guys

[MuscleInk]

Hey guys, I am a new member on this forum but have been researching into steroids for a while now. I have decided to do my first cycle ever. I have decided to use Mechabol as I have been reading a lot of great things about it. Before I buy everything I need I have some questions that I was hoping you guys can answer.

My Stats:
5'9
165 pounds 10% BF
Age: 23

I put together a stack that I think is looking pretty good, but would like to get some second opinions.

Pre load (2 weeks)

Liver care all of January (Just to make sure my livers working great before cycle)
Hawthorne Berry Last two weeks of January

Or maybe run AI Life Support for 2 weeks. Is this a good idea instead of running the hawthorne berry?

6 Week Mechabol cycle

Mechabol (2 bottles) 75/75/75/100/100/100 (I believe this is what others are doing)
Liver Care
AI Life support
Fish Oil
BCAA
Glutimine
CLA
Taurine
DAA (Starting last week of cycle)

PCT

Nolva 20/20/20/20
DAA
BCAA
Glutimine
Creatine Monohydrate
Liver Care

How does that look? I know I might have gone overboard with the support supps, but I rather be safe than sorry. What would you remove or add and why?

Im going to be getting my Nolva from Ar-r as I am reading great things about them.

Also, I have spend some time in the PCT forums on this site and am noticing a lot of people saying they are not recovering and are having really bad sex drive and depression after their cycle. Should I be concerned? I never saw so many people having a negative effect until I started reading this specific forum.

Thanks Guys

Hey NN.....

Please don't take this the wrong way....but more than 1/2 the new guys that come here usually start with the phrase, "so I've been doing a lot of research....." and then they propose a cycle that makes me ask, "what exactly have you been reading!?!"

It looks to me like your proposing a pro hormone "cycle". I can't give you much feedback on pro hormones. I don't believe in them and think most are largely a waste of time and money. Other guys may disagree. That's just my opinion.

Before starting anything, get your nutrition plan in check with our experts in the nutrition forum. Almost every guy says "my nutrition is great" but that's usually wrong. Rather than argue about it, post your daily nutrition and let's start there. If you aren't eating right, no pro hormone or steroid is going to fix that problem and if you aren't eating right, forget about adding any size or mass.

Second, hopefully you've been lifting/training consistently for at least 12 months, preferably 24. If you don't have a solid base of muscle to build upon, you'll likely cause more damage to the tendons and ligaments (pro hormones and steroids wont do anything but cause you injury without a solid muscle base to build off of).

Third, when items one and two are set up correctly, a better cycle would be injectable testosterone only, typically run for 12 weeks at a dose of 500mg/wk split in two or three weekly injections with a proper AI, HCG planned once you begin, and a good PCT (tamoxifen & clomiphene) no later than 14 days after your cycle ends. This would be the best approach.

[stpete]

Agree w/everything MI said. Those pro hormones are garbage. I tried them way back in the day and was extremely disappointed. Had i knew how to eat i would of been on a much better road. Save your money, make sure your diet and training are spot on and try it out for a while. Then when you know everything's on the right track you could investigate AAS.

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

Methyltestosterone has a rating of (anabolic : androgenic) 94-130:115-150

Methyl clostebol (mechabol) has a ratio of 3:1 on the anabolic:androgenic ratio to methyltestosterone. This means that mechabol is 3x more anabolic and about the same androgenic as methyl test.

None the less, You could better benefit from Testosterone alone and not taking the damage to your liver the Mechbol would cause.

Being at 165lbs I would think you should hit the diet section rather then relying on a Pro-hormone.

Just a FYI. Mechabol does not aromatise either, your AI is unnecessary. Being an OTC AI it would most likely not have much of an effect anyways.

[Harv]

Methyltestosterone has a rating of (anabolic : androgenic) 94-130:115-150

Methyl clostebol (mechabol) has a ratio of 3:1 on the anabolic:androgenic ratio to methyltestosterone. This means that mechabol is 3x more anabolic and about the same androgenic as methyl test.

None the less, You could better benefit from Testosterone alone and not taking the damage to your liver the Mechbol would cause.

Being at 165lbs I would think you should hit the diet section rather then relying on a Pro-hormone.

Just a FYI. Mechabol does not aromatise either, your AI is unnecessary. Being an OTC AI it would most likely not have much of an effect anyways.

This was helpful. I going to be running a pro hormone called Titan Stack. I'm looking for cycle support infromation. What do you know?

[Harv]

Hey guys, I am a new member on this forum but have been researching into steroids for a while now. I have decided to do my first cycle ever. I have decided to use Mechabol as I have been reading a lot of great things about it. Before I buy everything I need I have some questions that I was hoping you guys can answer.

My Stats:
5'9
165 pounds 10% BF
Age: 23


I put together a stack that I think is looking pretty good, but would like to get some second opinions.

Pre load (2 weeks)

Liver care all of January (Just to make sure my livers working great before cycle)
Hawthorne Berry Last two weeks of January

Or maybe run AI Life Support for 2 weeks. Is this a good idea instead of running the hawthorne berry?




6 Week Mechabol cycle

Mechabol (2 bottles) 75/75/75/100/100/100 (I believe this is what others are doing)
Liver Care
AI Life support
Fish Oil
BCAA
Glutimine
CLA
Taurine
DAA (Starting last week of cycle)


PCT

Nolva 20/20/20/20
DAA
BCAA
Glutimine
Creatine Monohydrate
Liver Care


How does that look? I know I might have gone overboard with the support supps, but I rather be safe than sorry. What would you remove or add and why?


Im going to be getting my Nolva from Ar-r as I am reading great things about them.

Also, I have spend some time in the PCT forums on this site and am noticing a lot of people saying they are not recovering and are having really bad sex drive and depression after their cycle. Should I be concerned? I never saw so many people having a negative effect until I started reading this specific forum.


Thanks Guys

Did you ever get your ducks in a row? Did you decide to use the pro hormone. If so, how did it go?