D-BOL Only* Cycle, a Few Questions

[RamboYokedBR0]

So yeah, I basically just decided to take dbol since I'm trying to get some gain,stronger, ect.
But, I'm trying to figure out how much I need to be taking??

Im 5'9", 145 and I'm 23 yrs old
As you can see I've been working out already, (3X wk) but not any real specific workout regimen.
What type of workouts should I be doing while on this dbol cycle?? I've mostly been concentrating my time on gaining mass.. but its hard since I have such a fast motabolism. I burn around 3500-3700 calories a day and am trying to keep my calorie input to around 4500.

Any advice would be appreciated!!!

[Sworder]

Sorry about being so off-topic but you can't be 145lbs got any other pictures? Also, what does the tattoo say? It's an ambigram huh?

[1tuffmudder]

First off bro you need to research. Secondly, you aren't ever supposed to do dbol only. Always ALWAYS want to run test as a base to any cycle. Any vet, or knowledgable person will tell you. But never a stand alone dbol.

[RamboYokedBR0]

First and last name, Travis Warren.
Ya I took 2

[MuscleInk]

First off bro you need to research. Secondly, you aren't ever supposed to do dbol only. Always ALWAYS want to run test as a base to any cycle. Any vet, or knowledgable person will tell you. But never a stand alone dbol.

^^^ This and the fact there's no mention of an AI, PCT and you're wondering what the best way to train is. Honestly, I'd prefer to hear you've spent enough time training to understand how to lift to support your goals and posting your diet would be ideal. Most guys try to avoid the nutrition discussion with the "my diet is great" comment - which is more often a cop out and attempt to avoid the discussion.

Your nutrition and training are the TWO most important factors that will drive and sustain your success with gear. I don't care what anyone tells you, if you don't eat and lift right, any benefit from gear will be short lived. There is no way around this.

As indicated, dbol only is an unwise choice of cycle no matter your age.

[Sworder]

Nevermind 145lbs seems about right. You look very young. Do you know the DANGERS that cycling at a young age can cause?

[< <Samson> >]

It's your body and you only get one.

If you do run gear, run it right. D-Bol only, is crap and will not be recommended by any semi experienced AAs user.

[red_hulk]

It's your body and you only get one.

If you do run gear, run it right. D-Bol only, is crap and will not be recommended by any semi experienced AAs user.

I come across this a lot. New people that don't do research and don't want to pin think its a great idea. Tried setting a guy straight once, his response was "I've been taking steroids longer than you". Point is, the comments above are right dude and more than likely you'll cycle anyway, just MAKE SURE you know what you're doing before you start. Then when you think you do, do more research.

[RamboYokedBR0]

Fuuuuck, okay so I've been working out for exactly 4 months at 24hrfitness.
I work in construction so I eat fastfood ALOT and eat a full meal 3X a day..But I've been trying to eat healthy for the past two weeks, packing my own meals. (eating chicken, lean meats, vegetables and white steamed rice with every meal)

What the hell should I be doing then???
Oh, I dont wanna juice it bc I hate needles. IDGAF

[red_hulk]

Stick with healthy diet and train more than three times a week. If you're scared of needles aas is not for you bro

[RamboYokedBR0]

I mean I could handle it. I just wouldn't be able to inject it myself..just cause they suck.
Also cant ask anyone cause I'm trying to keep it on the dl

I feel like I need to change something in order to se faster results, idk

[red_hulk]

You'd be surprised how quick a proper diet and workout routine can bring results

[MuscleInk]

Fuuuuck, okay so I've been working out for exactly 4 months at 24hrfitness.
I work in construction so I eat fastfood ALOT and eat a full meal 3X a day..But I've been trying to eat healthy for the past two weeks, packing my own meals. (eating chicken, lean meats, vegetables and white steamed rice with every meal)

What the hell should I be doing then???
Oh, I dont wanna juice it bc I hate needles. IDGAF

Well you're headed in the right direction. 80% of all body shaping success is derived from nutrition. You are what you eat and your are what you don't eat! Head on over to the nutrition section of our forum here and get some assistance developing and critiquing your nutrition plan. That's step ONE.

Step TWO, commit at least 8 more months in the gym. You need a solid base of muscle mass before you venture into the anabolic arena. With proper nutrition and more time in the gym, steroids will help promote lean body mass. Without a strong foundation, your ligaments and tendons won't keep up with the muscle growth and the added stress and strain on ligaments and tendons will lead to nagging injuries.

When (and only when) items one and two above are well established should you be investing time, money, and energy into anabolic compounds. Injectables are the way to go. It's generally safe and the hepatotoxicity (liver toxicity) isn't much of a concern. Some people have needle phobias, but if you want to do this right, injections will be the best path to success. Orals are a lot more toxic. Will one cycle of orals destroy your liver? Unlikely, but no one can make that promise....and the reality is, few people really only do ONE cycle. Once you've seen results, you will want more. It's reinforcing and difficult to avoid doing just one cycle.

Lastly. Be patient. Nothing happens over night. The guys here that have had the greatest success in achieving fitness and lean bodies that many would kill for, have done so with YEARS of commitment to this. There is no quick solution in this sport and steroids are not a magic bean that will deliver overnight success.

We're here to help. Work with us. We'll work with you.

[Doont-Hunter]

If you're going to do an oral only cycle, why not do something like Anavar which suppresses lest testosterone, is milder on the liver and has more keepable gains than with Dianabol? I don't know why you'd want all that bloat and acne lol.

[RamboYokedBR0]

I'll continue my workouts in gaining muscle mass and continue my dieting. I was on oral steroid dtcom, looking at the Ultimate Mass Stack, var alone seems weak no?

[Doont-Hunter]

I'll continue my workouts in gaining muscle mass and continue my dieting. I was on oral steroid dtcom, looking at the Ultimate Mass Stack, var alone seems weak no?

I'd rather Anavar alone which is less suppressive on my testosterone, is milder on the liver, doesn't produce acne or bloat, and has much more keepable gains than any other oral (in my opinion). It's your choice, but Anavar is an underrated steroid in my opinion.

[RamboYokedBR0]

What dosage would I run at? 80-100mg, 10 week cycle?
Do I need a PCT? something like this..

Day 1 Clomid 150mg + Nolvadex 40mg
Days 2 - 10 Clomid 50mg + Nolvadex 20mg
Days 11 - 21 Nolvadex 20mg
Days 22 - 28 Nolvadex 10mg
Liver protector like Milk Thistle throughout the cycle and thereafter.

[kronik420]

I'll continue my workouts in gaining muscle mass and continue my dieting. I was on oral steroid dtcom, looking at the Ultimate Mass Stack, var alone seems weak no?

just a fyi, those are 'steroid alternatives' , not AAS... they are supplements at best.. use them if you want..

no PCT needed for them..

[RamboYokedBR0]

I didnt clarify, PCT was for Dianabol not the supplements. I've decided not to do the supplements, their way too expensive!
Going to run a dbol cycle for a quick 10-15lbs

[kronik420]

I didnt clarify, PCT was for Dianabol not the supplements. I've decided not to do the supplements, their way too expensive!
Going to run a dbol cycle for a quick 10-15lbs

you stacking test with that??

[< <Samson> >]

Oh Jesus. . . .

1. Get a real diet

2. Get juiced the real way. < a syringe and a needle

Good luck!

[fit2bOld]

Just all wrong dude, it is all diet and exercise You can do all the juice in the world and if your diet and training suck that will be your result.You don't even have a base to work off.

YOU NEED TO EAT RIGHT AND TRAIN HARD

[< <Samson> >]

Just all wrong dude, it is all diet and exercise You can do all the juice in the world and if your diet and training suck that will be your result.You don't even have a base to work off.

YOU NEED TO EAT RIGHT AND TRAIN HARD

Very true. . . Think of juice as the only supplement that works. But, you still need to put in the work. If you do decide to go against the grain and do a D-Bol only cycle post your results. This way you can prove people wrong or at least steer away newbs from going the same route.

[ghettoboyd]

I didnt clarify, PCT was for Dianabol not the supplements. I've decided not to do the supplements, their way too expensive!
Going to run a dbol cycle for a quick 10-15lbs

shure bro you will get the quick 10-15lbs but it will be mostly water weight from the bloat you will most likely experiance on d-bol...be prepared to loose it all as quick as you got it...enjoy and goodluck...

[OnTheSauce]

Even on cycle, I only keep maybe 30 or 40% strength gains from dbol. Like no size. Couldn't imagine dbol only, probably lose everything plus some.

[warmouth]

Cant inject yourself? Simple solution: Get a friend. But before you start anything, research this site religiously for a long time. The more you know, the less you are likely to permanently hurt yourself. You havent been working out long enough to know it you will stick with it, the enormous amounts of fast foods have got to go, and YOU have alot to do before you start any AAS. It is all about what you are willing to do to meet your goals, not what you are willing to let steroids do for you. AAS only enhance what you are already doing. I am in the middle of an experiement that I am going to share when it is done, but you have to eat, train, and sleep like a champ. GoodLuck!

[RamboYokedBR0]

So many non-belivers. I suddenly feel as though I have to prove you all wrong.
I'll post pics after my cycle ends. Baught it yesturday, should be here just after thanksgiving weekend.

My timing couldn't have been better; my hours at work were just cut down from 48 to 32. ALSO for my big xmas present, the parentals got me a personal trainer for the next 3 months. I go 2x a week and start that shit this Tuesday. Whats sick about this place is they have group workouts throuhgout the day that are free to ppl that already use them as personal trainers, but I haven't really checked on what those workouts are all about, hopefully they are those stupid zumba dance classes like at 24hr bc THATS THAT SHIT I DONT LIKE!!

[MuscleInk]

Good luck. Do it your way then. You come here to solicit the experience of people who have done what you hope to do, yet they've done it longer with better success and managed the ups and downs effectively. You come here with an attitude and call us nonbelievers.

It baffles me why people come here, seeking advice, and then parade around like they know best. Knock yourself out. Why bother asking if you aren't going to listen?

I've been training consistently for almost 6 years now and had trainers every step of the way. It's not for a lack of knowledge that I work with trainers, rather I'm always looking for new challenges to my work outs and ways to push myself further than the last time. My current trainer is a former body builder, has competed in a dozen comps and has helped several men and women prepare for and successfully compete in body building competitions. I'm on my fourth cycle and have the fifth planned for spring when I tune up for my competition in the fall. I'm also a physician so health, fitness, and body mechanics are more than just a hobby for me.

But hey if you know better, far be it from me (or the other extremely knowledgable members) to stand in your way!

Just remember......a smart man learns from his mistakes but a smarter man learns from the mistakes of others.

[Doont-Hunter]

Good luck. Do it your way then. You come here to solicit the experience of people who have done what you hope to do, yet they've done it longer with better success and managed the ups and downs effectively. You come here with an attitude and call us nonbelievers.

It baffles me why people come here, seeking advice, and then parade around like they know best. Knock yourself out. Why bother asking if you aren't going to listen?

I've been training consistently for almost 6 years now and had trainers every step of the way. It's not for a lack of knowledge that I work with trainers, rather I'm always looking for new challenges to my work outs and ways to push myself further than the last time. My current trainer is a former body builder, has competed in a dozen comps and has helped several men and women prepare for and successfully compete in body building competitions. I'm on my fourth cycle and have the fifth planned for spring when I tune up for my competition in the fall. I'm also a physician so health, fitness, and body mechanics are more than just a hobby for me.

But hey if you know better, far be it from me (or the other extremely knowledgable members) to stand in your way!

Just remember......a smart man learns from his mistakes but a smarter man learns from the mistakes of others.

Yep you should listen to MI mate. He knows his shit and all these comments on here are of benefit to you. They aren't trying to challenge you. You shouldn't be doing it to prove them wrong. You'll only end up depressed from poor results, feeling physically and mentally like shit and feeling like it was all for nothing.

[BallerBoi]

Dbol only? fast food all the time? 145lbs?

Bro you need to eat healthy and gain more natural mass.

[Doont-Hunter]

Dbol only? fast food all the time? 145lbs?

Bro you need to eat healthy and gain more natural mass.

That's like literally trying to kill yourself or do more harm than good. So worrying what goes through people's minds these days. I don't want to live on this planet anymore.