Cycle problems

[JohnnyTribal]

Okay so recently I went from test e, and switched to cyp.... No big deal at the same dosage every three days, well I noticed that my libido has actually decreased, only on halfway into week six, is this because of the ester difference even though its so minute?? Maybe a little uUnder dosed ? Same bottle same source same color and consistency... Help

[Lunk1]

What dose are you using? There should be no noticable diff. Is it UGL or Pharm??

[JohnnyTribal]

What dose are you using? There should be no noticable diff. Is it UGL or Pharm??

250x 2 and its pharma a friends friend own a pharma company

[Lunk1]

The longer ester is going to be a small amount less test. Can't remeber the amount between E and Cyp but it's not alot!

[JohnnyTribal]

Soo should I shoot say a little over a mL

[Lunk1]

Soo should I shoot say a little over a mL

I think the diff is about 25mg but I'm talking out my ass cause i have not looked and cant remember. Again it is highly unlikely you would notice that small of a diff.

Edit: Diff between E and C is approx. 10-15 mg per ML! If you can feel 20-30 mg a week your amazing lol

[bigsiv]

Yeah not sure it gas anything to do with the change in ester, possibly estrogen build up ....not sure could be a no. Of reasons but I think you can cross the different test off

[MickeyKnox]

I think the diff is about 25mg but I'm talking out my ass cause i have not looked and cant remember. Again it is highly unlikely you would notice that small of a diff.

Edit: Diff between E and C is approx. 10-15 mg per ML! If you can feel 20-30 mg a week your amazing lol

The difference is 2mg per 100..fwiw.

[stpete]

Unnoticeable difference. I just dose the same.

[Lunk1]

The difference is 2mg per 100..fwiw.

Looked further...Mick (as usual) is absolutley right!!!!!

[MickeyKnox]

Wasn't trying to be a dick, just wanted to put it up for others to see.

[JohnnyTribal]

So due to estrogen build up it could just kind of dumb down the previously somewhat noticeable difference ? I trust my source but it made me second guess For a second.

[bigsiv]

I'm normally similar on cycle when I start my labido goes through the roof then about half way through it goes pretty low (like pre cycle low) could be something and nothing

[Lunk1]

Wasn't trying to be a dick, just wanted to put it up for others to see.

Not taken as a dick brah Glad it made me go recheck. I'm working on adding the test/ester weight diff., the half lifes and dosage calculator to my injection thread this week so feel free to link me to any site you prefer

[MickeyKnox]

Esters - Actual mg/100mg dose

Test no ester 100
Tren acetate 87
Test prop 83
Test enanth 72
Test cyp 70
Test undecan 63
Nand phenyl 67
Nand deca 64

[MickeyKnox]

Double check these Lunk. There may be some out of date info here. I have used this as a quick guideline, but haven't yet gone over it in detail and made adjustments yet.

Depot steroids Drug Active half-life

Deca -durabolin (Nandrolone decanate) 14 days
Equipoise 14 days
Finaject (trenbolone acetate) 3 days
Primobolan (methenolone enanthate) 10.5 days
Sustanon or Omnadren 15 to 18 days
Testosterone Cypionate 12 days
Testosterone Enanthate 10.5 days
Testosterone Propionate 4.5 days
Testosterone Suspension 1 day
Winstrol (stanozolol ) 1 day

Steroid esters Drug Active half-life

Formate 1.5 days
Acetate 3 days
Propionate 2 days
Phenylpropionate 4.5 days
Butyrate 6 days
Valerate 7.5 days
Hexanoate 9 days
Caproate 9 days
Isocaproate 9 days
Heptanoate 10.5 days
Enanthate 10.5 days
Octanoate 12 days
Cypionate 12 days
Nonanoate 13.5 days
Decanoate 15 days
Undecanoate 16.5 days

Ancillaries Drug Active half-life

Arimidex 3 days
Clenbuterol 1.5 days
Clomid 5 days
Cytadren 6 hours
T3 10 hours

[Lunk1]

Thanks Mick...I will double check (I know that there is a degree of argument on some half lives from other sites) and work the info into the thread. I think it is injection related!

Thanks my Mounty friend

[MickeyKnox]

Youre most welcome my Eagle chum.

[JohnnyTribal]

Thanks guys