Last Cycle check before my first pin!

[honeyking]

i have two options to follow :-

CYCLE option 1
1-10 test prop 100 mg eod
1-6 tren ace 50 mg eod.
6-10 hcg 1000 ius week
1-10 adex as needed
1-10 caber 0.5 mg e3d

11 one shot of triptorellin
11-15 Clomid 25 mg day
11-18 daa and tribulus
11-15 proviron 50 mg day
11-15 DAA,Zinc and tribulus

CYCLE option 2
Wk 1-12 Testosterone Enanthate = 250mg twice/wk e3.5d
Wk 1-4 Dianabol (Dbol ) = 30mg/day
Wk 9-12 winny 50mg per day
Wk 1-12 Adex 0.5mg eod or as needed
Wk 1-14.5 hCG = 250iu twice/wk day before test injection .

PCT
Begins wk 15 to wk 19

Clomid 75/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
3g DAA
tribulus
Zinc


i know my TREN cycle option is inconsiderable because i am total beginner but still if you guys think low dose 50mg EOD is OK to stack with TEST then i will go with test tren else TEST dbol.But the reason I am thinking TREN because I think tren is much less harsh on the body, not being a 17aa, and the strtegth gains are more signifigant.And if I talk about dealing with it,i will drop it immediately if any harsh side effect will occur!

My stats:6feet,190lbs with 14-15%bodyfat

Workout : "kris gethin 12 week recomp program"

Diet will be clean : 300protein,200carbs,60fats

[kronik420]

i have two options to follow :-

CYCLE option 1
1-10 test prop 100 mg eod
1-6 tren ace 50 mg eod.
6-10 hcg 1000 ius week
1-10 adex as needed
1-10 caber 0.5 mg e3d

11 one shot of triptorellin
11-15 Clomid 25 mg day
11-18 daa and tribulus
11-15 proviron 50 mg day
11-15 DAA,Zinc and tribulus

CYCLE option 2
Wk 1-12 Testosterone Enanthate = 250mg twice/wk e3.5d
Wk 1-4 Dianabol (Dbol ) = 30mg/day
Wk 9-12 winny 50mg per day
Wk 1-12 Adex 0.5mg eod or as needed
Wk 1-14.5 hCG = 250iu twice/wk day before test injection .

PCT
Begins wk 15 to wk 19

Clomid 75/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
3g DAA
tribulus
Zinc


i know my TREN cycle option is inconsiderable because i am total beginner but still if you guys think low dose 50mg EOD is OK to stack with TEST then i will go with test tren else TEST dbol.But the reason I am thinking TREN because I think tren is much less harsh on the body, not being a 17aa, and the strtegth gains are more signifigant.And if I talk about dealing with it,i will drop it immediately if any harsh side effect will occur!

My stats:6feet,190lbs with 14-15%bodyfat

Workout : "kris gethin 12 week recomp program"

Diet will be clean : 300protein,200carbs,60fats

id go option 2, since option 1 is a mess...

if your worried about the effect that dbol has on the liver, drop it, test only should yield great results assuming your DIET and training are correct..

and start the AI at .25mg EOD then adjust..

[MuscleInk]

Is this is your first cycle, neither option is a good choice. Too many compounds for first timer. You are asking for a long list of potential problems.

[honeyking]

can i drop Dbol and can run winny twice in a cycle?? coz it will drop my fat and will gain little lean muscle too??

[honeyking]

Is this is your first cycle, neither option is a good choice. Too many compounds for first timer. You are asking for a long list of potential problems.

dude but DBOL TEST is the most basic cycle! and i am not using dbol and winny all together,they are 1month apart because in that time my liver will recover(will take milk thistle and liv52 throughout cycle and pct)

and more over will opt winny injectable over oral!

[MuscleInk]

dude but DBOL TEST is the most basic cycle! and i am not using dbol and winny all together,they are 1month apart because in that time my liver will recover(will take milk thistle and liv52 throughout cycle and pct)

Dude....test-C or test-E is the most basic cycle.

Take the milk thistle and throw it in the trash. It'll do nothing to sustain liver function with a hepatotoxic agent.

[honeyking]

if i go with winny inj then?

[MuscleInk]

if i go with winny inj then?

I'm going to suggest you stick with the test-E alone. With the proper nutrition you will see very solid gains and won't need to worry about liver-tox from either oral. If you're worried about lean gains, your diet can be more effective. It's really not a smart idea to add more than one compound on your first cycle. If you develop any problems, it's much harder to diagnose and adjust a cycle with so much going on. You have no idea if you'll be prone to hypercholesterolemia and HTN so why complicate this and risk health problems?

Your Adex is higher than I'd recommend. Start at 0.25mg q.a.d. Anastrozole will likely elevate your LDL an suppress your HDL in addition to the anabolic agents.

I know this isn't what you want to hear but like so many newbies, their mind set is, "get big, fast". That's not the smart approach. Honestly, run the test-E 12 wks. Keep the other products for a second (or preferably) a third cycle.

[honeyking]

I'm going to suggest you stick with the test-E alone. With the proper nutrition you will see very solid gains and won't need to worry about liver-tox from either oral. If you're worried about lean gains, your diet can be more effective. It's really not a smart idea to add more than one compound on your first cycle. If you develop any problems, it's much harder to diagnose and adjust a cycle with so much going on. You have no idea if you'll be prone to hypercholesterolemia and HTN so why complicate this and risk health problems?

Your Adex is higher than I'd recommend. Start at 0.25mg q.a.d. Anastrozole will likely elevate your LDL an suppress your HDL in addition to the anabolic agents.

I know this isn't what you want to hear but like so many newbies, their mind set is, "get big, fast". That's not the smart approach. Honestly, run the test-E 12 wks. Keep the other products for a second (or preferably) a third cycle.

thanx dude will do that now droping DBOL now will run testE only and am not among those fools who will start any stuff without consulting with you guys and will cry afterward at Blood work trt forum!

So the new cycle will look like:-
Wk 1-12 Testosterone Enanthate = 250mg twice/wk e3.5d
Wk 1-12 Adex 0.25mg eod or as needed
Wk 1-14.5 hCG = 250iu twice/wk day before test injection .

PCT
Begins wk 15 to wk 19

Clomid 75/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
3g DAA
tribulus
Zinc

[MuscleInk]

thanx dude will do that now droping DBOL now will run testE only and am not among those fools who will start any stuff without consulting with you guys and will cry afterward at Blood work trt forum!

So the new cycle will look like:-
Wk 1-12 Testosterone Enanthate = 250mg twice/wk e3.5d
Wk 1-12 Adex 0.25mg eod or as needed
Wk 1-14.5 hCG = 250iu twice/wk day before test injection .

PCT
Begins wk 15 to wk 19

Clomid 75/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
3g DAA
tribulus
Zinc

Looks good. Keep the nutrition in check and you will see great gains with minimal sides (assuming your bf isn't above 20% and you are committed to your training).

Keep us posted!

[honeyking]

for sure big bro!! 1dec will start my cycle!

[MuscleInk]

for sure big bro!! 1dec will start my cycle!

Awesome! We'll be watching for updates. Good luck.

[Lunk1]

I got 5 bucks says he tosses the dbol or winnie or both in no matter what lol!

[Oubowtie06]

^ this

[MuscleInk]

I got 5 bucks says he tosses the dbol or winnie or both in no matter what lol!

I'm not taking that bet. You and I both know what's going to happen.

[sixfootseven]

I've been looking around for a clear answer, so i will just ask.

Here he has the L-dex during his cycle, but others are recommending aromasin.

Is it just a matter of preference?

inb4 mickeyknox comes in to straighten me out.

[MickeyKnox]

I've been looking around for a clear answer, so i will just ask.

Here he has the L-dex during his cycle, but others are recommending aromasin.

Is it just a matter of preference?

inb4 mickeyknox comes in to straighten me out.

L-dex and Aromasin (L-Stane) are both terrific AI's. But its really a matter of choice, based primarily on price, availability, and knowledge of the side affects of each compound.

Arimidex (L-Dex) is cheaper, a blocker type inhibitor, but i bit harsh on your lipid panel.

Aromasin (L-Stane) is more expensive, a suicide inhibitor, and has zero affect on your lipid panel.

AR-R for all your AI and SERM needs.