Please help

[FB66]

Im a sophmore offensive lineman that played on varsity last season at 5/10 180. The only reason i got pulled up was because a senior was graduating and i had to learn his postion, otherwise i was way to small. I always hear how so and so is taking roids and thats why he is so big. Before i go on i just want to say i have no dream of going pro or going to any college to play ball, i just want to enjoy my next two season, i truley want to go to college with my 3.8 gpa. So i lift 2-3 hours a day squat, bench, dead lift, power clean all the best things apparently(obviously not all i do but thats what i work around) then i go and run a mile or run sprints. i also eat everything in sight. I still cant gain weight.I always hear the scare tactics of how your liver will fail and you will die but then why would so many people do them. My question is to hear the science behind the symptoms like growth plate closure because test turns to estrogen but wouldn't arimidex impede that. I really dont want to have to lose football which i have played since i was so young, any advice would help.

Thanks,

[Shsm]

Are a sophomore in HS or college? Your profile says you're 18, please specify for us.

[Chx beach 79]

CREATINE will add some size and strength... You are putting yourself at extreme danger cycling that young! Especially if there is no desire to go pro. You will most likely mess up your HPTA for life and have some other serious side effects... Not a good idea!

[FB66]

HS sorry forgot to specify

[Shsm]

HS sorry forgot to specify

Alright bro, that's what I expected. This isn't what you want to hear, but its what you should hear.

I'm 19 and I graduated from HS in June, so I definitely know where you're coming from regarding the contemplation of using steroids for sports.

The truth is your body is more than likely pumping out tons of natural hormones. If everything is normal, there is absolutely no reason negating why you shouldn't make excellent gains at your age. You're either not eating enough, training hard enough, or sleeping long enough which is why you're contemplating the use of AAS to fill the void. Another thing is, if you can't be a collegiate athlete without the use of steroids, there is no way in hell you're ever becoming a pro.

You need to read this and read it well.

The young and Steroids

Due to the recent number of PM's ive been receiving regarding age and steroids I thought i'd write this thread to try and help some of our younger members. Ive also been having a conversation with my Endocrinologist who may give a more profession opinion on the subject:

There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.

I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.

I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.
Marcus

What is going to happen when college or HS Football is over and your body is rendered no longer capable of producing Testosterone? Your use is for a sport, if you don't make it your priorities are bound to change. Does injecting synthetic Testosterone biweekly and being monitored by doctors for the rest of your life sound fun? HELL NO!

Do the smart thing and think about your future. Gaining weight quickly isn't going to matter anymore if you don't get drafted.

[FB66]

Thanks i kinda always knew that but just need to hear it

[Shsm]

Thanks i kinda always knew that but just need to hear it

My pleasure

Can you give me a summarization of your diet and supplementation bro? How much sleep do you clock in a night on average? Sounds like you're overtraining with a very basic workout program program...

[Shsm]

http://assets.houstontexans.com/asse...h%20manual.pdf

You might find this interesting also. Skim through it, take a look at the diet part

[FB66]

I pretty much eat whatever whenever try to stay away from cookies and stuff like that and i take 25 G Whey post with 5G creatine and i did take assault last year

[FB66]

oh and i sleep from 10pm-545am

[gixxerboy1]

Forget steriods and get on a real bulking diet, not eating what ever

[MickeyKnox]

Alright bro, that's what I expected. This isn't what you want to hear, but its what you should hear.

I'm 19 and I graduated from HS in June, so I definitely know where you're coming from regarding the contemplation of using steroids for sports.

The truth is your body is more than likely pumping out tons of natural hormones. If everything is normal, there is absolutely no reason negating why you shouldn't make excellent gains at your age. You're either not eating enough, training hard enough, or sleeping long enough which is why you're contemplating the use of AAS to fill the void. Another thing is, if you can't be a collegiate athlete without the use of steroids, there is no way in hell you're ever becoming a pro.

You need to read this and read it well.



What is going to happen when college or HS Football is over and your body is rendered no longer capable of producing Testosterone? Your use is for a sport, if you don't make it your priorities are bound to change. Does injecting synthetic Testosterone biweekly and being monitored by doctors for the rest of your life sound fun? HELL NO!

Do the smart thing and think about your future. Gaining weight quickly isn't going to matter anymore if you don't get drafted.

Excellent response Shsm.

Forget steriods and get on a real bulking diet, not eating what ever

How To BULK

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t#.UJJyq2fX_fs