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[bond007]

So ive found myself in a situation.
Ive been cycling 500mg - masteron with 250mg of test E every 6 days for the past 10weeks ,gains have been nice and lean with very low bf
being the more noticed change.
I recently couldnt get a hold of my last vial of test E for the remainder of my cycle (3 weeks)
so i got test 400 which i dosed 400mg the first week then up to 600mg to give myself one last boost before coming off (stupid idea)

Now i have the worst sides, so i thought they might be estro realted which i took nolva at 12.5 mgs a day,
That didnt seem to work and now ive got the limpest mother ****ing dick ever !!

What have i done ? Help ! im usually like a flag pole 24/7.

I freaked out today and thought **** it post cylce time and have started taking 100mg of liquid clomid, hope to god that helps but i dont seem
how as my test levels should be threw the roof !!

Oh yeah :

5'10
85kg
9%

cheers

[AsEpSiS]

How old are you? What is your past cycling experience? Did you run an AI at any point during the cycle? Starting PCT meds right away isn't a good idea as you still have active androgens in your body...which is why you're supposed to wait 14 days after your last shot got long estered drugs (test E). Also, what type of masteron was it?? Prop, enanthate? Did you have preliminary blood work done before starting the cycle? Do you have blood work done now?

These are all questions that the more experienced guys are going to ask you.

In the meantime, i would get a PDE5 inhibitor.

[songdog]

Well it isnt hard to tell you dont know wat you are doing.Did you run a AI like Adex?

[MuscleInk]

Well it isnt hard to tell you dont know wat you are doing.Did you run a AI like Adex?

Oh boy......






Why do people run crazy cycles and then wonder why they've messed themselves up? No AI? Why, why why???

[Capebuffalo]

Oh boy......

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Why do people run crazy cycles and then wonder why they've messed themselves up? No AI? Why, why why???

This. Omg. How many days from last pin?
If not 14 stop the clomid
Wait til then and run clomid and novla.
It won't hurt your dumb aas to run hcg as well.
Do you pray? I would start if not. Holy shit what a walking cluster fvck.

[>Good Luck<]

Look up hcg method for pct. You are probably suffering complete shut down which is not fun.

Maybe lunk can show up and give you 10 links you really need to read... U poor shmuck

[bond007]

I didnt run any AI as i thought it could mess with growth, I havent had any probs with my past 3 cycles,
suss/deca.
Dbol/test
Winnie/test

Its hard for me to get my hands on most things here in australia as im away in the mines alot of the time.

No excuses for a **** up.

Everything was running fine untill the test 400,

could this be the problem ?

should i stop all pins and pct?

Im actually asking for advice as the reasearch on the net about these topics is very broad ranged and miss leading.


Im 28 and havent done blood work as im away on mine sites and have to keep it all very tight to my chest

[>Good Luck<]

Holy smokes! Find the stickies at the top of the page. Use them. All of them. When I joined this site, I was completely clueless and now I know enough to get by, but am learning every day. You will benefit most from the stickies. Read read read.


As for your last question. YES! stop all pins and wait 18 days and then start pct of NOLVADEX 40 mg every day for 2 week followed by 20mg daily for 2 more weeks

AT THE SAME
TIME YOU TAKE NOLVADEX- take clomid at 100/100/50/50

If it were me, I would also use these next 18 days to blast HCG at 1500iu eod. You would need an AI if you did that tho.

Good luck

[JohnnyVegas]

I was a "AI on hand in case of sides" guy in the beginning. HUGE mistake.

It will not hurt your gains (other than the perceived gains of water weight) but it will keep your blood pressure down, erections up and other sides of high E2 from damaging your body.

Definitely read the PCT stickies (or just follow the advice above) and run an AI during your next cycle. You will be happy you did.

[gixxerboy1]

And,always have everything before u start. Especially if things are harder to get.

[warmouth]

Here, no more excuses not to have everything you need:
Armidex
http://www.ar-r.com/ancillaries/liqu...ml-1mg-ml.html
Nolva
http://www.ar-r.com/tamox-50ml-20mg-ml.html
Clomid
http://www.ar-r.com/clomi-70ml-35mg-ml.html
IF NEEDED
Cialis
http://www.ar-r.com/cia-30ml-30mg-ml.html

[MickeyKnox]

This. Omg. How many days from last pin?
If not 14 stop the clomid
Wait til then and run clomid and novla.
It won't hurt your dumb aas to run hcg as well.
Do you pray? I would start if not. Holy shit what a walking cluster fvck.

Agree with everything in this thread. Especially this.

But imho, this had nothing to do with the Test 400 and everything to do with not including an AI on cycle to control your E2 levels. Classic example.

And yes, if youre religious, a little prayer wouldn't hurt.

[MuscleInk]

Agree with everything in this thread. Especially this.

But imho, this had nothing to do with the Test 400 and everything to do with not including an AI on cycle to control your E2 levels. Classic example.

And yes, if youre religious, a little prayer wouldn't hurt.

I agree with Mickey. Without an AI on some of the blends or superTs, your E2 becomes a runaway freight train.

[bond007]

Shouldnt i keep on with a low dose of test ? so i still have some in my body rather than shutting it down and letting it do its own thing ?

Im suppose to go **** like a rabbit with this chick in thailand next week, HELP !

I agree i should have used a Ai but i dont see why after 10 weeks of use im getting random sides.

[boxingfan30]

I agree with Mickey. Without an AI on some of the blends or superTs, your E2 becomes a runaway freight train.

does that mean at that point you may as well get a bra?

[boxingfan30]

Shouldnt i keep on with a low dose of test ? so i still have some in my body rather than shutting it down and letting it do its own thing ?

Im suppose to go **** like a rabbit with this chick in thailand next week, HELP !

I agree i should have used a Ai but i dont see why after 10 weeks of use im getting random sides.

maybe a few grams of arginine and some other AA's to promote more nitric oxide?

[ghettoboyd]

have you even tryed cialis or viagra to see if you can get an erection via that route?..i would at least try that before more aas...

[OdinsOtherSon]

And I think its important to remind, not just the OP, but everyone...even IF you had performed a proper cycle with proper PCT there is no PCT protocol on the planet that will restore your HTPA to 100% immediately following PCT. Granted, the OP's situation isn't ideal and doesn't fall into the "ideal cycle" category, but others will read this as well. Only a well thought out cycle using all precautions, a properly planned PCT and TIME will restore your system. Even with all the AIs, HCG, PCT etc, you're still gonna have to give your body time to return to homeostasis.

[ghettoboyd]

And I think its important to remind, not just the OP, but everyone...even IF you had performed a proper cycle with proper PCT there is no PCT protocol on the planet that will restore your HTPA to 100% immediately following PCT. Granted, the OP's situation isn't ideal and doesn't fall into the "ideal cycle" category, but others will read this as well. Only a well thought out cycle using all precautions, a properly planned PCT and TIME will restore your system. Even with all the AIs, HCG, PCT etc, you're still gonna have to give your body time to return to homeostasis.

i agree, well said...

[gixxerboy1]

And I think its important to remind, not just the OP, but everyone...even IF you had performed a proper cycle with proper PCT there is no PCT protocol on the planet that will restore your HTPA to 100% immediately following PCT. Granted, the OP's situation isn't ideal and doesn't fall into the "ideal cycle" category, but others will read this as well. Only a well thought out cycle using all precautions, a properly planned PCT and TIME will restore your system. Even with all the AIs, HCG, PCT etc, you're still gonna have to give your body time to return to homeostasis.

Very true. And just because you recovered in X amount of weeks on your last cycle doesnt mean you will on your next one

[MickeyKnox]

Shouldnt i keep on with a low dose of test ? so i still have some in my body rather than shutting it down and letting it do its own thing ?

Im suppose to go **** like a rabbit with this chick in thailand next week, HELP !

I agree i should have used a Ai but i dont see why after 10 weeks of use im getting random sides.

Thats because you started a cycle without having all the accoutrements on hand, and didn't research the potential sides - sans said accoutrements. Lesson learned, i hope.

And I think its important to remind, not just the OP, but everyone...even IF you had performed a proper cycle with proper PCT there is no PCT protocol on the planet that will restore your HTPA to 100% immediately following PCT. Granted, the OP's situation isn't ideal and doesn't fall into the "ideal cycle" category, but others will read this as well. Only a well thought out cycle using all precautions, a properly planned PCT and TIME will restore your system. Even with all the AIs, HCG, PCT etc, you're still gonna have to give your body time to return to homeostasis.

Muh nigga!

[kelkel]

And I think its important to remind, not just the OP, but everyone...even IF you had performed a proper cycle with proper PCT there is no PCT protocol on the planet that will restore your HTPA to 100% immediately following PCT. Granted, the OP's situation isn't ideal and doesn't fall into the "ideal cycle" category, but others will read this as well. Only a well thought out cycle using all precautions, a properly planned PCT and TIME will restore your system. Even with all the AIs, HCG, PCT etc, you're still gonna have to give your body time to return to homeostasis.

So well said. You could save it to your favorites and repost it on a daily basis!

kel

[OdinsOtherSon]

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[OdinsOtherSon]

Thanks for the kudos guys. It means a lot in my book coming from the vets of this forum!

Mickey....rrrraaaahahaha!!!!

In doc's office right now getting BW results!!!

[OdinsOtherSon]

^^^sorry...trying to type this on a smart phone that's not too smart

[Perseverance1]

Shouldnt i keep on with a low dose of test ? so i still have some in my body rather than shutting it down and letting it do its own thing ?

Im suppose to go **** like a rabbit with this chick in thailand next week, HELP !

I agree i should have used a Ai but i dont see why after 10 weeks of use im getting random sides.

Go to any boots pharmacy in Thailand and ask for kamagra gel...most of them will have it. Take all 100mg about 15-30 minutes before you have sex. You're welcome.



EDIT: I don't recommend this but I once took 2 full 100mg servings within a 2 hour period and my cock was harder than anything on this earth. I ****ed this chick for 9 hours, only resting when we were out of breath...before I finally gave up. I couldn't cum for 4 days though. Kamagra/penegra are pretty much the same btw...

[Anabolic4Health]

Go to any boots pharmacy in Thailand and ask for kamagra gel...most of them will have it. Take all 100mg about 15-30 minutes before you have sex. You're welcome.

EDIT: I don't recommend this but I once took 2 full 100mg servings within a 2 hour period and my cock was harder than anything on this earth. I ****ed this chick for 9 hours, only resting when we were out of breath...before I finally gave up. I couldn't cum for 4 days though. Kamagra/penegra are pretty much the same btw...

Hahahahahaha. Love the edit. Nice to know shit like that happens to others...

[MuscleInk]

Thats because you started a cycle without having all the accoutrements on hand, and didn't research the potential sides - sans said accoutrements. Lesson learned, i hope.

Muh nigga!

Agree with everything posted and OP....sometimes it's the sides you DON'T see that you should worry about such as hypercholesterolemia and hyperlipidemia. Not everyone is susceptible to gyno and waiting until sides appear and then trying to be reactive to the problem isn't exactly smart.