Will I ever be ready

[bunndiesel]

So must of this will be copied from my new member post. I'm 22, I have been working out since I was 17. I have done a few cycles of pro hormones (A few cyles of Trens, estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione and 19-Norandrosta4,9diene-3,17dione along with a cycle of Sustevol which was a stack of 4-chloro-17α-methyl-etiocholan-1, 4-diene-3-17b-diol 2α, 17α-dimethyl-17β-hydroxy-5α-etiocholan-3-one 17α-methyl-17β-hydroxy-5α-etiocholan-2-ene) I did take my first cycle of these when I was 17 unfortunately but haven't used one since I was 19. I know I was retarded but when your 17 and you gain 15-20 pounds of muscle in a month its hard to say no. I found out a year ago that I do have elevated liver enzymes (120-150) 3 years after my last pro hormone which I'm guessing is the reason. I am now thinking of doing my first real cycle ( Injectable) In maybe 6 months but is it even something I should be considering with my elevated liver enzymes. I know orals are out of the question but what about injectables.
Stats

6'0
250
Not sure on body fat

Stats
Bench 405
squat 495
Deadlift 545

[toppinm]

Those are pretty impressive stats, you should figure out your body fat and post it. There are steroids that aren't liver toxic, but why risk it when it's potentially life threatening?

[MickeyKnox]

Fantastic stats if they are accurate.

But I think a little more reading and research would benefit you, particularly for someone your age. It’s best to know the complications and associated health risks that could affect you should you decide to embark on this journey sooner than later. A few more years to allow your developing endocrine system to finish growing and then perhaps look at using AAS

Take a look at these links and please read them. I think you will agree that they are both informative and educational.

Cheers and good luck.


The Young and Steroids

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.UHBeIa7X_fs

Nutritional Forum

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...M#.UHNufa7X_fs

[bunndiesel]

I agree a few more years sounds better but I think when I ran my pro hormone cycles 5 years ago I did as much damage as I can do to my endocrine system I could be wrong. Not to be rude but I have been reading about the health risk for a few years now which is why I stopped using pro hormones 3 years ago. I just can't find much on using non toxic steroids with elevated liver enzymes.

[warmouth]

Just stick around and hang out for a while. The more maturity you show, not matter the age, you will get the trust of the vets. We are all here to help, but we are also aware of alot of new guys wanting to rush into this without proper knowledge. We do our best to help them, but the advice given is generally ignored. Welcome to the forum!

[Lunk1]

6' 250...my guess is overweight..post a pic without a face for a BF% guesstimate! Everyone thinks AAS is a diet...hell alot just get fatter!

[MuscleInk]

True, injectables aren't as hepatotoxic as orals but it would best to get more blood work done before cycling AND there are other factors to consider that can be equally problematic that come from injectables (hypercholesterolemia, hyperlipidemia, hypertension, prostate enlargement, depression, anxiety, loss of libido, erectile dysfunction, acne, alopecia....and lots more fun stuff to be aware of!)

[Metalject]

I've never been a fan of pro hormones...so many of them are so much harsher than many true blue steroids. Also, although pro hormones are notorious for elevating liver values, they should have come down significantly since it's been three years since you've used any, in fact it shouldn't take but a few months at most post pro hormone use if your liver is healthy. You might want to look at some other things you're doing in your life that might be contributing to liver stress. Now some people have naturally higher than average enzyme values, I do but your numbers are very high.

As far as steroids go, your basic injectable steroids are not going to cause stress to the liver. The exception would be any C17-aa injectable, which is normally a C17-aa manufactured in injectable form, i.e. injectable WInstrol, Dianabol, etc.

Like others have said, it's always a good idea to get yourself looked and over thoroughly before you jump in.

[bunndiesel]

Never said I wasn't fat. I put up some pics under member pics forum.

[Lunk1]

Honestly look better than I expected man...maybe 20% or so...Looks like me a year or so ago! I hovered around 250 but now down to 235...headed towards 225 hopefully!

Let's get you over to nutrition ASAP and if your ready to put the work in you could def. be in a good poition to run a cycle in the 6 months you spoke of!!!