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    Switching esters.

    All right, so I'm currently done with week 3 of an 100-110 NPP and 140-150 Test Prop EOD. I was supposed to do this to week 12, but I ****ed up an order. So now I have enough NPP and prop for about 4 more weeks, and then I got regular Deca 250 and Test E 300. I wasn't supposed to buy this, but I messed up my order and I'm now sitting with this. Can't return it or anything like that. So my question is, how do I transition into this? I know some people use faster esters as a kickstart of a cycle and such, so it is possible, right? Should I overlap for some weeks? Should I not?

    The guy I bought it from said i should do 600 test E and 500 deca EW. I feel like this is a bit much and feel like maybe 500 test e and 400 deca is better, but I've never used slower ester before so any input would be wonderful. I read that injecting Test E every 5th day is better for the blood levels than every week, is this true? This is my 4th cycle, and 3 of them has been like the one I was supposed to be on. At those cycles I've only used 10mg Nolvadex ED as an AI, is this enough for this cycle too? I've got some arimidex and nolva, so if you think i'll need more for this type of ester please tell me. Never really had any side effects, only gotten some puffy nipples but when I was done on the cycle it went away. Should I go back to faster esters before PCT? I'm sorry if I'm overthinking and making it way more complicated than it needs to be, I'm just way out of my comfort zone right now. Tried to search forums and google for info about switching esters and couldn't find all that much except what I've written.

    Not sure how relevant it is, but this is my last cycle. I promised that to my family, myself and my girlfriend so I'm not gonna do any more, ever. I'm saying this in case the cycle gets a bit longer than what I've done it the past(14 weeks is the most I've done) so that you'll know I'll spend all the time I've got to recover from it.

    Some stats, this is however pre-cycle.
    90 kg(200 lbs)
    bf: 14
    age: 25
    height: 5'9.5'' (176.5 cm)

    My bulking diet is something like 320g protein, 360g carbs, 125g fat.

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    The half life of Test E is about two weeks and it takes about two weeks for the Test to accumulate enough in the blood to "kick in". Since you're already taking Prop your blood is already saturated. Just start taking Test E about two weeks before you run out of Test Prop. You should transition right into Test E from Test Prop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ret View Post
    All right, so I'm currently done with week 3 of an 100-110 NPP and 140-150 Test Prop EOD. I was supposed to do this to week 12, but I ****ed up an order. So now I have enough NPP and prop for about 4 more weeks, and then I got regular Deca 250 and Test E 300. I wasn't supposed to buy this, but I messed up my order and I'm now sitting with this. Can't return it or anything like that. So my question is, how do I transition into this? I know some people use faster esters as a kickstart of a cycle and such, so it is possible, right? Should I overlap for some weeks? Should I not?

    The guy I bought it from said i should do 600 test E and 500 deca EW. I feel like this is a bit much and feel like maybe 500 test e and 400 deca is better, but I've never used slower ester before so any input would be wonderful. I read that injecting Test E every 5th day is better for the blood levels than every week, is this true? This is my 4th cycle, and 3 of them has been like the one I was supposed to be on. At those cycles I've only used 10mg Nolvadex ED as an AI, is this enough for this cycle too? I've got some arimidex and nolva, so if you think i'll need more for this type of ester please tell me. Never really had any side effects, only gotten some puffy nipples but when I was done on the cycle it went away. Should I go back to faster esters before PCT? I'm sorry if I'm overthinking and making it way more complicated than it needs to be, I'm just way out of my comfort zone right now. Tried to search forums and google for info about switching esters and couldn't find all that much except what I've written.

    Not sure how relevant it is, but this is my last cycle. I promised that to my family, myself and my girlfriend so I'm not gonna do any more, ever. I'm saying this in case the cycle gets a bit longer than what I've done it the past(14 weeks is the most I've done) so that you'll know I'll spend all the time I've got to recover from it.

    Some stats, this is however pre-cycle.
    90 kg(200 lbs)
    bf: 14
    age: 25
    height: 5'9.5'' (176.5 cm)

    My bulking diet is something like 320g protein, 360g carbs, 125g fat.
    In order to transition form Prop to Enth smoothly, you will have to add the Enth in the last two wks and continue with Prop because of the short ester. Run your Enth e3.5days @ .5ml per shot. You don't need this to be high since you are including Deca. And I would run your Deca at 400mg/wk.

    Run your Adex on cycle at .25 e3d to start and monitor. (this may be reduced to twice per wk) Also have Caber/Prami on hand for possible prolactin issues.

    Save you Nova for PCT unless youre gyno prone. Nolva is for targeting the breast tissue. It will not do anything for E2 elsewhere.

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    if your on week 3 and have enough for 4 more weeks i would just use that and stop. 7 weeks on short ester's is fine. There isnt a need to go 12. IMO
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    There is no way to make a clean switch from short to long...your always going to have a some days where your prop and E will crossover...it just is what it is. I oftern time start my Test E with Prop to "get going" faster

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    I agree w/gix. That's a nice cycle you're running and at good dosages. Finish this, run your pct, and save your other stuff for next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    I agree w/gix. That's a nice cycle you're running and at good dosages. Finish this, run your pct, and save your other stuff for next time.
    I was going to suggest this earlier as well...although, if I was a betting man and I am! I would guess he wont have quite enough to pull off 7 weeks...I'll bet 6!!

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    I think I will try what you say. Just a quick question (Better safe than sorry), do I include the Deca when I add the enth with the prop? And should it always be .5ml per shot or only until I'm done with the prop?

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    Well, I'm a noob at this forum. I was supposed to quote MickeyKnox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
    if your on week 3 and have enough for 4 more weeks i would just use that and stop. 7 weeks on short ester's is fine. There isnt a need to go 12. IMO
    This. This is perfect. No need to transition His opinion and mine.

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    I thank you all for your input and will take every opinion into consideration.

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