1st Timer needs a brothers help.

[muniz239]

Age:18
Height:5'10
weight:170

I am looking for a good cutting steroid to take. This will be my 1st cycle. also what else will need to be taken with the steroid during and after the cycle. Thank you.

[MuscleInk]

Age:18
Height:5'10
weight:170

I am looking for a good cutting steroid to take. This will be my 1st cycle. also what else will need to be taken with the steroid during and after the cycle. Thank you.

Spend several months reading and then ask questions about nutrition and training. The hormones in your body control sleep, body temp, appetite, growth, mood, memory, sex drive, reproduction, immunity and more. Steroids WILL affect these functions in your body so you need to understand what you are doing before you potentially cause considerable and/or permanent harm to yourself.

You are far to young to be considering steroids right now. We'll help you, but please help yourself by learning as much as you can from our members and the information that is here. You will be better off in many ways.

[muniz239]

i understand the dangers of what can happen. ive been working out for a couple of years and i am intrested in going to the next level. i am not 100% certain on it but i am exploring my options if i do choose to do so.

[The Bear 79]

Please explain in detail exactly what you "understand" about the potential dangers associated with cycling too young.

[Soar]

I'm fresh to the aas myself but id say stick it out for a few more years then hit the aas. Last thing you wanna do is ruin your natural test levels and shoot blanks lol. But I know how stubborn I was at 18 not much will change your mind. Either or I wish you the best of luck mate!

[MickeyKnox]

I think a little more reading and research would benefit you, particularly for someone your age. It’s best to know the complications and associated health risks that could affect you should you decide to embark on this journey sooner than later. A few more years to allow your developing endocrine system to finish growing and then perhaps look at using AAS. Otherwise you could be setting yourself up for a host of unwanted side affects including premature closure of your growth plates, Erectile Dysfunction, Gynecomastia (b*tch t*ts), and more..

Take a look at this link and please read it. I think you will agree that it is both informative and educational.

Cheers and good luck.


The Young and Steroids

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.ULk5-mfX_fs

[MuscleInk]

i understand the dangers of what can happen. ive been working out for a couple of years and i am intrested in going to the next level. i am not 100% certain on it but i am exploring my options if i do choose to do so.

Not to sound facetious, but please explain what you know about the consequences of manipulating hormones that control sleep, body temp, appetite, growth, mood, memory, sex drive, reproduction, immunity and more.

[gixxerboy1]

i understand the dangers of what can happen. ive been working out for a couple of years and i am intrested in going to the next level. i am not 100% certain on it but i am exploring my options if i do choose to do so.

Besides the age thing and everyone is correct you should wait.
But with your stats and your looking to cut you are carrying very little muscle. There is no reason for steroids at this stage. Just because you have been working out for a few years means nothing. I'm sure your diet and training can use adjustments that would do better then a cycle

[muniz239]

From what i know the reason is my natural test is still very high and i am able to make very good gains without gear. There is also a chance that i am going to end up messing up my endocrine system because i am still in a period where it is fluctuating. like i said i am just curious if i were to do it what would be my best bet.

[gixxerboy1]

I'm also telling you from your stats and you saying you need to cut your diet needs help. so any cycle and results will be completely temporary, unlike the potential damage.

[MuscleInk]

From what i know the reason is my natural test is still very high and i am able to make very good gains without gear. There is also a chance that i am going to end up messing up my endocrine system because i am still in a period where it is fluctuating. like i said i am just curious if i were to do it what would be my best bet.

In our experience, people asking these questions aren't asking out of some humble curiosity. They are asking because there is INTENT.

You'll find the information on this board if you read.

I won't make any recommendations for cycles. It is not in the interest of your health or well being at this time. I realize managing your health is your decision, but I will not offer advice that is a risk to your health right now, IMO.

[songdog]

Bottom line Bro you need to build a base.You are to small for your size.You need to work on your diet.

[muniz239]

Considering everyones concern i will do more research and wait until im older

[stpete]

Wise decision.

[MickeyKnox]

Wise decision.

Yup ^^

[The Bear 79]

Not to sound facetious, but please explain what you know about the consequences of manipulating hormones that control sleep, body temp, appetite, growth, mood, memory, sex drive, reproduction, immunity and more.

Do you cut & paste your own sh!t or do you re-type it every time? This has got to be the 4th or 5th time I've read this exact same from you tonight..................

When I noticed how short of a period you have been here & that you already got Admins attention & earned the "Knowledgeable Member" title, I was impressed, so I dug into your post history because as knowledgeable as I am, I know there are still people out there that know more than me, I like being surrounded by people like that because I get to read their post history & learn what they know, which in turn makes me that much more knowledgeable. Unfortunately this hasn't been the case with you, I was very disappointed when I discovered that you quite often repeat the same EXACT sentence over & over again across several threads, & it also appears you like to use google to come up with $5 words that you think make you look knowledgeable, when you could just use the same words that everyone else here uses, like for example, you could say high cholesterol, but you'd rather google the half mile long medical / scientific name for it & use that, and there's nothing wrong with using big words, most of us here understand 95% of them anyway, but I've made a living for quite sometime now identifying & seeing through BS, you have fooled many here, but I see through you.

"I'm just sayin".............................

[MickeyKnox]

Bear, Muscle Ink is a licensed practicing MD. Not sure if you knew that or not..just saying bro..

[Lunk1]

Do you cut & paste your own sh!t or do you re-type it every time? This has got to be the 4th or 5th time I've read this exact same from you tonight..................

When I noticed how short of a period you have been here & that you already got Admins attention & earned the "Knowledgeable Member" title, I was impressed, so I dug into your post history because as knowledgeable as I am, I know there are still people out there that know more than me, I like being surrounded by people like that because I get to read their post history & learn what they know, which in turn makes me that much more knowledgeable. Unfortunately this hasn't been the case with you, I was very disappointed when I discovered that you quite often repeat the same EXACT sentence over & over again across several threads, & it also appears you like to use google to come up with $5 words that you think make you look knowledgeable, when you could just use the same words that everyone else here uses, like for example, you could say high cholesterol, but you'd rather google the half mile long medical / scientific name for it & use that, and there's nothing wrong with using big words, most of us here understand 95% of them anyway, but I've made a living for quite sometime now identifying & seeing through BS, you have fooled many here, but I see through you.

"I'm just sayin".............................

Why does there always have to be someone who acts like an enforcer? This sounds like Dec11 reincarnated! You can review my post history too if ya like but I can say with out a doubt MI is the book worm geek he comes off as! His pictures have been questioned but never his knowledge...till now!

Sorry to butt in but this seemed like a personal attack against a member who has been extremely helpful to TONS of members both on and off this board!

[MuscleInk]

Do you cut & paste your own sh!t or do you re-type it every time? This has got to be the 4th or 5th time I've read this exact same from you tonight..................

When I noticed how short of a period you have been here & that you already got Admins attention & earned the "Knowledgeable Member" title, I was impressed, so I dug into your post history because as knowledgeable as I am, I know there are still people out there that know more than me, I like being surrounded by people like that because I get to read their post history & learn what they know, which in turn makes me that much more knowledgeable. Unfortunately this hasn't been the case with you, I was very disappointed when I discovered that you quite often repeat the same EXACT sentence over & over again across several threads, & it also appears you like to use google to come up with $5 words that you think make you look knowledgeable, when you could just use the same words that everyone else here uses, like for example, you could say high cholesterol, but you'd rather google the half mile long medical / scientific name for it & use that, and there's nothing wrong with using big words, most of us here understand 95% of them anyway, but I've made a living for quite sometime now identifying & seeing through BS, you have fooled many here, but I see through you.

"I'm just sayin".............................

Wow. You make a living seeing through bullshit? Does it pay well? Did you you go to school for that or are you a self proclaimed expert.

Don't pretend to know me after one day.

[AD]

Bear just came back this wk. Give him a break, he missed out on a lot that happened recently. I'm sure MI will forgive him for not knowing.

[MickeyKnox]

There's obviously been a misunderstanding. Im sure The Bear will return to straighten this out. And i agree with AD, MI is a very forgiving and understanding solid guy.

[AD]

MI is a doctor and we all respect his views....and big words... lol

[MickeyKnox]

MI is a doctor and we all respect his views....and big words... lol

He gets those big words at a discount. So really he's only paying 2.99, not 5.00.

[Lunk1]

He gets those big words at a discount. So really he's only paying 2.99, not 5.00.

Iv'e had to have him dumb stuff down for me...he couldn't get it that dumb...

[MickeyKnox]

Iv'e had to have him dumb stuff down for me...he couldn't get it that dumb...

Hahahaha! You kill me bro!

[AD]

And to bear, pls dont check my posts... i confess. Its full of bs and short simple words. Couldnt get the discount..lol

[Lunk1]

And to bear, pls dont check my posts... i confess. Its full of bs and short simple words. Couldnt get the discount..lol

and boobie pics...YAH!!!!!!!

[MickeyKnox]

Hey Bear, just so you know, the jury is still out on Lunk..hahahahaha

[Lunk1]

Hey Bear, just so you know, the jury is still out on Lunk..hahahahaha

You Miran brah..come at me brah

[MickeyKnox]

Lol!

[The Bear 79]

I respect everyones opinion of him & I'm not trying to change anyones opinion of him, I'm just speaking my mind, if I have offended anyone I recommend you trade those glass feelings in for some cast iron. I don't Denny that he's a doctor or that he has helped many, but I stand behind my post. MI, you're right, I don't know you, but I know your type very well, & yes, my job pays an exponential amount of money, as much as, & in some cases, more than most doctors. (I assume that's where you were trying to go with that condescending question) Does that make us equals....................not even close big guy, but the point is, you don't have to go through 8 - 12 years of med school to make six figures. But.............I dygress.............or is that dye grass.............. And in an effort to keep things civil between us in the future, I apologize, however.................I remain disappointed & unimpressed.

[MuscleInk]

I am restricted to linguistic applications as there is an embargo on my visual explanations.

Translation: I have to use words. No one believes my pictures

[AD]

i still no understand...

please talking slower?

[MuscleInk]

I respect everyones opinion of him & I'm not trying to change anyones opinion of him, I'm just speaking my mind, if I have offended anyone I recommend you trade those glass feelings in for some cast iron. I don't Denny that he's a doctor or that he has helped many, but I stand behind my post. MI, you're right, I don't know you, but I know your type very well, & yes, my job pays an exponential amount of money, as much as, & in some cases, more than most doctors. (I assume that's where you were trying to go with that condescending question) Does that make us equals....................not even close big guy, but the point is, you don't have to go through 8 - 12 years of med school to make six figures. But.............I dygress.............or is that dye grass.............. And in an effort to keep things civil between us in the future, I apologize, however.................I remain disappointed & unimpressed.

Hmmmm....

Denny not deny?
Dygress not digress

They don't teach spelling in bull shit class?

No worries. You be pretentious and assuming. I'll Google some new words this weekend so we don't have to recycle the old and then perhaps you'll feel better.

I'm not here to impress you so if you're disappointed then you need to lower your expectations.

[MuscleInk]

Thanks Lunk, Mickey, AD.

Respect.

[The Bear 79]

Hmmmm....

Denny not deny?
Dygress not digress

They don't teach spelling in bull shit class?

No worries. You be pretentious and assuming. I'll Google some new words this weekend so we don't have to recycle the old and then perhaps you'll feel better.

I'm not here to impress you so if you're disappointed then you need to lower your .

Really? This is you're best rebuttal? You desperately pick on an obvious auto correct error (Denny) & a one misspelled word in an uncountable number of posts? Pitiful man.....................Dr. Spell check..................that's your new name..............or should it be Dr. Desperate & Panicked..............either way, you're pitiful & transparent.

[MuscleInk]

Really? This is you're best rebuttal? You desperately pick on an obvious auto correct error (Denny) & a one misspelled word in an uncountable number of posts? Pitiful man.....................Dr. Spell check..................that's your new name..............or should it be Dr. Desperate & Panicked..............either way, you're pitiful & transparent.

I'm done with you. Out of respect for the original poster I'm not hijacking this thread further.

When your done with your tantrum, join is at the big people table.

[Lunk1]

Jeesuz...more of the same! This same shyt cycles about once a month it appears! I promise my spelling will suck...and I make a whopping 50K a year sooo fuk it! I'm no Doc but I am a self procalaimed BS reader myself.

What the hell was the point of this call out BEAR? Was it neccessary to the OP's post? Did it have relevence to AAS? Did MI give bad info that needed to be corrected? If the answer to these questions is no then it seems it's nothing more than a personal call out/attack and would have been better taken care of through the PM process!

I have never figured out what the point of one knowledgable member trying to be the Alpha by busting the chops of another is. WTH does it accomplish? Reminds me of 2 dogs meeting in the street, sniffing each others asses, trying to determine who the top dog is. I would hope we all have a bigger mission here than sniffing each others asses. Pretty sure you are both wise in the ways of AAS and a concerted effort would be better than a division of resources!

Still brings back memories of Dec11 and his bully behavior....makes me ill when ppl act like keyboard bullies!

[AD]

Jeesuz...more of the same! This same shyt cycles about once a month it appears! I promise my spelling will suck...and I make a whopping 50K a year sooo fuk it! I'm no Doc but I am a self procalaimed BS reader myself.

What the hell was the point of this call out BEAR? Was it neccessary to the OP's post? Did it have relevence to AAS? Did MI give bad info that needed to be corrected? If the answer to these questions is no then it seems it's nothing more than a personal call out/attack and would have been better taken care of through the PM process!

I have never figured out what the point of one knowledgable member trying to be the Alpha by busting the chops of another is. WTH does it accomplish? Reminds me of 2 dogs meeting in the street, sniffing each others asses, trying to determine who the top dog is. I would hope we all have a bigger mission here than sniffing each others asses. Pretty sure you are both wise in the ways of AAS and a concerted effort would be better than a division of resources!

Still brings back memories of Dec11 and his bully behavior....makes me ill when ppl act like keyboard bullies!

indirectly, this can be a great lesson for op.... if you take roids, be prepared to turn into a crazy maniac!

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Age:18
Height:5'10
weight:170

I am looking for a good cutting steroid to take. This will be my 1st cycle. also what else will need to be taken with the steroid during and after the cycle. Thank you.

Are you a ripped 170lbs or a doughy 170lbs? I would cut naturally to as low a bodyfat as you can get, then blow the hell up with some test and dbol. At this juncture, you can take something like clen, T3, or DNP (controversial but safe if used correctly) to get to that point