TDEE normally vs TDEE on a TREN cycle

[Far from massive]

When people who cycle ( as opposed to TRT and Blast, its true for them also, just to a lesser extent) say they plan to run X amount below thier TDEE on cycle, particularly with Tren my first though is do they really think their TDEE on Tren/Test will be the same as it is normally? I would really question this line of thinking. If you have low BF and decent muscle mass and are eating clean (this last part is important) then my thoughts are that on a Tren/Test cycle you will be far below your TDEE on the same diet that was your TDEE. Due to both physiologic as well as the fact that most do far more work during their workouts when on Tren, exceptions would be those who do a lot of cardio and drop it on Tren.

Anyhow those are my feelings based on research and real world experience with myself and several friends who range from casual BB to serious regional competitors. I really think that if you are 12% or less you will see great recomp gains cycling Tren/Test on the same caloric intake that you normally use of cycle. Running a deficit is great for prepping for those planning to drop major wieght, however for those looking to see muscle gains and fat loss I would not suggest going below your normal TDEE.

[Perseverance1]

Honestly I think this is just a universal truth for people on cycle, not sure what prompts you to believe that people with a lower bf will react to the drugs differently than people with a higher
%. Granted you shouldn't really start cycling unless you're already at around 12% but that's a whole nother discussion...

What do you think?

[Lunk1]

Yrue Tren is noted for it's food partitioning abilities but it's far from a diet pill. I think running a deficiet diet of 500-800 cals will still allow for great recomp due to trens stron A/A ratio.

If one had there TDEE calculated to a nats ass running any AAS is going to cause slight fat burning.

[Perseverance1]

Hopefully I'll be able to shed some light (and numbers) on this soon. I purchased a bodybugg online recently and it should be getting here long before I start my tren cycle (end of next May). I plan on running the numbers daily to see just how much tren effects my TDEE. Not perfect numbers by any means but still something is better than nothing....

[Far from massive]

Honestly I think this is just a universal truth for people on cycle, not sure what prompts you to believe that people with a lower bf will react to the drugs differently than people with a higher

Those with a higher bodyfat/large lean muscle mass will not have a large percentage of their TDEE accounted for by the growth of muscles so their caloric needs will not be affected nearly as much by increased muscle growth on cycle compared to those with low bodyfat/large lean muscle mass.


%. Granted you shouldn't really start cycling unless you're already at around 12% but that's a whole nother discussion...

What do you think?

See Above

[Perseverance1]

See Above

I sort of follow what you're saying...but I might be just a tad bit too stupid...you're telling
me that someone with 16% bf will have a sizable difference in TDEE on a cycle of tren than someone at 12%?

What makes you believe that people with a higher bf% won't have a large percentage of their TDEE accounted for by the growth of muscles while on cycle? Have you seen anywhere that states AAS affects people with more bf differently than people with less (minus some of the sides)?

I'm not ribbing you here, just generally curious.