Peptides?~

[DigitalGorilla]

Sooo -- can anyone tell me what Peptides are?? Not the google definition - but I mean in real talk. ANyone?

[auswest]

Plenty of information on this mate take the time and do some researching using the search tool

[DigitalGorilla]

Again. NOT looking for the definition. Looking for people who have taken them ..etc.

[Perseverance1]

Magical healing drugs

[Times Roman]

Amino Acids >>> Peptides >>> Proteins

Proteins are made up of peptides, and peptides are made up of amino acids

very similar to:

Sugars >>> Simple carbs >>> complex carbs >>> Starches >>> Cellulote/Cellulite (undigestible fibers)



make sense?

[Perseverance1]

Amino Acids >>> Peptides >>> Proteins

Proteins are made up of peptides, and peptides are made up of amino acids

very similar to:

Sugars >>> Simple carbs >>> complex carbs >>> Starches >>> Cellulote/Cellulite (undigestible fibers)



make sense?

I think he will like my answer more

He DIDN'T want a "definition"...he wanted to know what they were haha

[Capebuffalo]

To gain any significant benefit from peptides you must be committed to taking them for 3 months at a minimum, however 6 months is usually better. They provide slow and steady gains/losses in weight (depending on your goal), but the advantage to this is the results are much more permanent than drugs which cause rapid changes in body composition, and they have a much better safety profile with little to no side effects.

[kmms]

To gain any significant benefit from peptides you must be committed to taking them for 3 months at a minimum, however 6 months is usually better. They provide slow and steady gains/losses in weight (depending on your goal), but the advantage to this is the results are much more permanent than drugs which cause rapid changes in body composition, and they have a much better safety profile with little to no side effects.

my night time sleeping cycle improved about ten bazillion percent from the very first night of using mod grf 1-29 and ghrp2. that didn't take 3 months and i consider it a significant benefit. since i sleep better, i wake up with more energy and am better prepared physically and mentally for my am workout. that's a pretty significant benefit. i do agree that there are areas where it does take time for "noticeable" changes to happen, but i don't think you have to pin 3 times per day and wait 3 months to begin feeling the difference.

[Times Roman]

my night time sleeping cycle improved about ten bazillion percent from the very first night of using mod grf 1-29 and ghrp2. that didn't take 3 months and i consider it a significant benefit. since i sleep better, i wake up with more energy and am better prepared physically and mentally for my am workout. that's a pretty significant benefit. i do agree that there are areas where it does take time for "noticeable" changes to happen, but i don't think you have to pin 3 times per day and wait 3 months to begin feeling the difference.

for most (I think) the "benefits" bodybuilders/weightlifters seek is hyperplasia. This benefit really takes along time. Yes, there are other benefits that have a quicker turnaround, such as your observation suggests.

[kmms]

for most (I think) the "benefits" bodybuilders/weightlifters seek is hyperplasia. This benefit really takes along time. Yes, there are other benefits that have a quicker turnaround, such as your observation suggests.

well i do agree with you both, i'm just trying to suggest that if you have real peptides, not chinese, that you would be noticing significant effects well before 3 or 6 months. peptides work for about 3 hours at a time (and then possibly have a residual effect), what you do with that 3 hour opportunity is up to you.

[enlarged-traps]

nah don't touch them.

[nvrtd]

peptide is something that makes you magically gain 70lbs of lean muscle tissue without loosing it when you come off hehehe

[DigitalGorilla]

Would you guys suggest taking peptides? Are they worth it?

[stpete]

I'm considering it. Times Roman has a nice log in the IGF/HGH/Insulin forum. Check it out. There's afew more there too including 1 or 2 Stickies.

[DigitalGorilla]

After all ive read about Riptropin - I think im gonna switch to and try peptides...... throwing away money on Fake HGH just sucks!! So im not taking the chance anymore!

[Rwy]

its near impossible to find real hgh. I think I could find a kidney on the black market before real hgh

or you can drive down to the bronx and offer a drug addict with hiv money for their prescription

[DigitalGorilla]

hahaha ....true!

[DigitalGorilla]

i thought I had legit stuff but now I doubt it....... So im gonna start peptides....not sure what to take so im doing research now....


Anyone know how i can find Times ROmans log on here about peptides?

[kmms]

Would you guys suggest taking peptides? Are they worth it?

absolutely, provided you're sure they're made in north america. i don't think i've ever slept better and my recovery time from weight training has dropped so much that i feel like i'm almost bionic. mod grf 1-29 and any or all of the ghrp's 3-4 times per day for me.

[DigitalGorilla]

absolutely, provided you're sure they're made in north america. i don't think i've ever slept better and my recovery time from weight training has dropped so much that i feel like i'm almost bionic. mod grf 1-29 and any or all of the ghrp's 3-4 times per day for me.

Nice - thats exactly what im looking for ..... how much do you pin? and its sub q right?

[kmms]

Nice - thats exactly what im looking for ..... how much do you pin? and its sub q right?

general consensus is 1 saturation dose (1mcg per kg) on an empty stomach before bed for anti aging purposes. additional pins should be for specific activity periods i.e. pin before fasted cardio for lipolysis, pin post workout for anabolism. i get all mine in around my sleep schedule and early morning weight training, so 9pm, 6am and 9am then done for the day. occasionally i'll pin before my evening meal for a 4th but it is important to follow a few basic rules, the more empty your stomach the better, proteins are ok say 10 mins after pinning but mixed meals of proteins and carbs should wait probably 20 mins after pinning, and fats should just generally be saved for meals when you're not using peptides. i'll pin peptides, wait ten minutes, pin insulin and then immediately eat two baked chicken breasts and by the time i'm done with the chicken i'll get my carbs in via oatmeal and dried fruits. you can do sub q or IM it really doesn't matter just personal preference.

also i use mod grf1-29 specifically, not cjc1295. morning pins are ghrp6 and my pre bed pin is ipamorelin. i was using ghrp6 for the implied hunger benefits but it doesn't affect me that way unfortunately. the plus side is that if you get the hunger, it would also probably negatively impact your sleep. since i don't get the hunger i'm switching to ghrp2 after i run out of 6 because 2 provides a bit more bang for the buck. more selective about releasing GH but doesn't offer the hunger effect. i train with weights 3 days in a row then one day of IF and cardio and i haven't had a single instance of "day after" muscle soreness since i started with peptides.

[DigitalGorilla]

Thats so much - very helpful.... but just to clarify - which is more likely to give you hunger? thats what i DONT want.....so i would choose the one that has less hunger with it


And - sorry im bad with math -- but im 250 lbs at max - so thats what like 113 kgs? So i need 113 MCG (which is a little more than 1 cc) in each pin OR each day??

[kmms]

Thats so much - very helpful.... but just to clarify - which is more likely to give you hunger? thats what i DONT want.....so i would choose the one that has less hunger with it

ghrp6 is the one that gives some users a serious hunger effect. sounds like you'll want to try ghrp2 as it's more selective about releasing GH and won't make you feel like you're starving. i've used ghrp2 at night before bed without any negative sleep sides but as that overnight sleep cycle dose is perhaps the most important of all, i use ipamorelin for that pin only. ipamorelin isn't as effective as ghrp 6 or 2 at releasing GH however it does "help" me sleep as opposed to just not having any sleep related issues if that makes sense. ipamorelin also won't cause any prolactin or cortisol increases where the others may in some people.

[DigitalGorilla]

And on AR - the bottles are 2mg each --- so how does that break down to CC's?
Im soo lost!

[Dpyle]

And on AR - the bottles are 2mg each --- so how does that break down to CC's?
Im soo lost!

2mg is 2000 mcg. It will only break down into cc's once it's reconstituted with bacteriostatic water.

So if you were to use 1ml/cc of bac water it would yield a concentration of 2000mcg per ml/cc.

[kmms]

i would use the peptide calculator if i were you. just decide what your most common dose amount would be and keep in mind that some studies show that the less water you use to reconstitute peptides, the longer they will last with less degradation. 1mcg per kg is the highest anyone really needs to go as past that point you will see diminishing returns. if you get good north american made peptides then you will still see very good results at .5mcg per kg. according to those in the know, 3 saturation level doses per day is the same as getting several iu's of rHGH, even 5 or 6.

[DigitalGorilla]

guys thanks so much for the help...im looking for a calculator now that does this online...thanks!

[DigitalGorilla]

damn - i found one -- this stuff is still confusing --- but ill get it! thanks again guys!

it sounds like i should be at about 2Ius a day ....but once I get off work ill look at the pins and make sure

[kmms]

http://peptidecalculator.com/

[Juced_porkchop]

here is a link to an article I made on peptides that might help you ---> http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...*#.UNxpi4YmHT0

[DigitalGorilla]

wow! Thanks! Amazing read!