Proposed cycle - dunno where to ask this

[blazing]

Okay, new to this forum and honestly new to steroid forums in general since i have a family member who does all the qna for me.
but i have two cycles proposed and want to do one of them.

either

Ultradrol/trenazone

or epi/trenazone


Udrol/tren:
udol 0/0/4-8/8/8/12
tren 1.5/2/2/2/2.5/3

epi/tren:
epi 20-30/30/30/40/40-50/40-50
tren 1.5/2/2/2.5/2.5/3

obviously so yall dont ask i have support supps, gonna preload 2 weeks before
and obviously got my SERM and AI. i'd use nolvadex on either at 40-30/20/20/10
my one question is the ultradrol, would it be okay to start it 2 weeks after tren? as i'd like to get a longer tren cycle to have tren kicking in like the second week of ultra if not the first.
lemme know please

[10nispro]

stats please

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

What are your current stats and goals?

I personally do not like PH's but have tried UD in the past.

[blazing]

well i dont like ph's either but at this point is hella much cheaper than my favorites
and im 16-17% bf which im completely comfortable w/
and im 6'3 245 -- 395 max bench
my goal is to recomp which i've read both epi and udol are compatible for that with udol obviously being the better bulker
also adjust my dosages if you suggest.

[MickeyKnox]

Test ONLY first cycle.

PH's are garbage. Stick with Testosterone.


Most Common Beginners Cycles

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJZv62fX_fs

[alexISthrowed]

With a good source a test only cycle shouldn't run you too much money. Don't mess with ph's, there horrible. Are you scared to pin?

[blazing]

what? no i've run injections before, and its all i've ever done except an hdrol cycle once. what im saying is running up to 700mg/w of test e for 12 weeks + dbol+prim and hcg adds up. i dont want to do some test cycle without anything. kind of a waste

[MickeyKnox]

what? no i've run injections before, and its all i've ever done except an hdrol cycle once. what im saying is running up to 700mg/w of test e for 12 weeks + dbol+prim and hcg adds up. i dont want to do some test cycle without anything. kind of a waste

Wow, you couldn't be further from the truth. In fact, if its a waste, i'd blame your diet not the cycle.

Test only cycles are very productive and produce incredible results if run properly. 500-700mg/wk of Test with a solid diet can produce huge gains quite easily. Forget the Dbol and Primo, but do not neglect the hCG! This is important if you want to prevent testicular atrophy and enjoy a smooth transition from on cycle to PCT.

Most Common Beginners Cycles

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJZv62fX_fs

[songdog]

Bro you have a lot to learn.And anyone who thinks a test only cycle is a waste.Well that says a lot I suggest you start doing some reading and quit thinking all that water water weight BLOAT you get from Dball and pro hormones is impressive.In the end test is king with something or alone.Beacuse everything is based off test.And many guys with a lot of experence still run test only.