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My friend is 22years old and goin on about his 10th cycle. He has done it all he claims from test-tren-sust-deca-etc. he does pct and looks pretty good. He also has a gf for the past 2 years who is clueless. He claims his natty test is fine and he doesnt have any issues. He also says he does it because hes just simply lazy.. What advice would you guys have for him or me to give to him... Hes really reckless with the stuff with the amount he does but claims hes fine
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10 cycles at age 22 is obsurd.
He's not going to tell you that he can't get an erection or please his woman. These are things almost no man will admit until they are willing to admit it to receive help.
The ideal approach would to advise him to get blood-work and see where he stands. Most likely if he comes off he is going to feel like utter crap as I would imagine his natty system is completely suppressed.
If he's hard headed and won't listen then he's going to have to hit rock bottom before anything changes. Most likely he is going to have major issues as he gets older and possibly be required to be on TRT for life depending on the damage he has done.
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Nothing...I promise he is the type that wouldn't listen anyhow!
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I have a buddy that looks amazing(no homo) when he is on cycle. As soon as he stops he shrinks back to his normal self which is a whopping 160lbs, he takes no AI or PCT.
He now takes cialsis just to be able to have sex with his gf. Without it, he can't get an erection. He's 24.
Ive had multiple arguments with him about PCT and AI's but he doesn't listen. He's stubborn though, he will never admit he is wrong when clearly he is struggling.
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No pct is crazy and i kno a few guys who are friends with the above guy and they all get real big then shrink down, nonetheless the keep gettin more juice... But thx ill advise him to stop for awhile and see what happens and get some bloodwork done
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Why do you feel you need to give him advice? Has he asked for it?
...unsolicited advice is usually ill received.
aka "JOB"
Amen...try telling a parent how they should raise their kid or telling a wife or husband about their cheating spouse and how they should handle it. I doubt the convo with the friend will end in him thanking you for being so caring and conciderate!Originally Posted by Times Roman
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These types are the types that will not listen to advice, so it is a useless waste of energy to attempt to do so. Worthless endeavor.
People who do not wish to be helped cannot be helped.
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Ya u guys are right he probably wont give a sh**. The best thing i can do it get 2x as big as him naturally and rub it in his face... My legs are already bigger and stronger bc he has stilt syndrome lol
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Why rub it in his face? You should just worry about yourself and be there when/if he does reach out to you for help.
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Its just hard to hang out with him cuz i did some dbols in highschool and i felt like superman and hes always pressuring me to get on a real cycle and i like the guy a lot i just want him to be alright. From what i read on this site TRT seems to he in his near future
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You're clearly to smart to be pressured into it, and much smarter than your friend. Just stay the course you're on, and be there if/when he needs you to be.
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I dont' think he should be running oral only cycles though.
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10 cycles at 22 it will be trt for him in the near future i would think
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