Cycle for this summer. help to find a hardner

[XxAndreaxX]

Hi all!!! Im about to start my Winter cycle, but I'm planning my summer cycle. want it to be perfect!!
So, lets start saiyng, it would be my 4th cycle. I ran until now, hdrol, test,tren, proviron.
My cycle won't have the only goal is not to build muscle, but to enjoy 100% the summer.


I'd start in june and end in september, something like 12-14weeks and it could be like this:

week 1-4:
-dianabol + test + tren
I don't write doses right now, but only compounds. the idea is start with dianabol susta and tren to have a ready body very fast. never used Dianabol, could it be an issue, because of retention, that I could have problems later to dry out??

week 4-6:
-test + tren
drop dianabol and go ahead with test and tren, to go on bulk but shred at the same time.

week 6-14:
test + hardner
drop tren, and start some muscle hardner, but don't have any Idea what could be the best, Proviron, Primobolan, Winstrol, Masteron, Halotestin, Anavar...
Due it will be a long time, maybe it should be injected, to protect my liver.
My final goal, is to face august, totally dried out, and no need of Clen or ephedra, I'm actually low in BF, and had good results with tren-proviron


Maybe Primobolan, could go troughout the whole cycle... Test, I love the horny-feeling in summer (no homo), should I stay on 500EW or should I drop to 250EW to minimize retention of susta?? I read that melanotan gives a horny effect too, maybe i can drop test, and add melanotan???


Please this to the serous BB, don't laugh at my cycle hehehe, for me its serious, I don't expect to compete atm only want to have fun and look great in summer.

[Lunk1]

Tell me more about your previos cycles including doses and results (not the ph crap)

I need to see the dose recomendations you are considering?

What are your current stats and goals?

[XxAndreaxX]

1st inject
week 1-8 test 250EW + tren A 75EOD + proviron 1 pill a day

2nd inject (about to start)
week 1-8 test 500EW + tren A 100EOD

1,85m, 27yo 78kg 14%BF (due bulking right now)

[XxAndreaxX]

1st inject
week 1-8 test 250EW + tren A 75EOD + proviron 1 pill a day

2nd inject (about to start)
week 1-8 test 500EW + tren A 50-75 ED

1,85m, 27yo 78kg 14%BF (due bulking right now)

[fit2bOld]

Your really making it all so complicated. Bulk and cut harden and dry out this is really all about diet. A solid cycle of test And Winnie or test and anavar is sweet. I don't believe you will get the results your looking for with all the additional compounds. This comes from hard work at the gym, proper nutrition and a big commitment on your part to stick to it.

[MickeyKnox]

You're over thinking your cycle.

Look here for an idea on simple yet effective cycles.

Most Common Beginners Cycles

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJZv62fX_fs

[cyounger100]

simple summer cut test p tren a mast p there you go

[XxAndreaxX]

simple summer cut test p tren a mast p there you go

yes I was thinking about that possibility, but between masteron, proviron, anavar, primobolan, winstrol and halotestin, whats the best for definition and dry?? I only used proviron and had excellent results, but whats the best or the best combo??

[MickeyKnox]

Unless youre sub 12 or even 11%BF, you can forget Mast. And if you choose Primo you'll go broke running it properly. Halo is very hard on your liver enzymes. Its great for strength mind you, one of the best actually. But not necessary for your intended goals. And forget Dbol for drying out..that made me laugh actually.

Prop, (you can add Tren A if you like, but not necessary) Var, a quality AI, and solid diet, will easily produce the results youre looking for. Often, less is more.

[XxAndreaxX]

Unless youre sub 12 or even 11%BF, you can forget Mast. And if you choose Primo you'll go broke running it properly. Halo is very hard on your liver enzymes. Its great for strength mind you, one of the best actually. But not necessary for your intended goals. And forget Dbol for drying out..that made me laugh actually.

Prop, (you can add Tren A if you like, but not necessary) Var, a quality AI, and solid diet, will easily produce the results youre looking for. Often, less is more.

thanks man, very helpful answer, Dbol was never ment to dry out hehe, only to gain some quick size at the beginning, but anyway, why do you say primo is hard to use properly?? my BF will be below 10% due IF, so no problem.

[gixxerboy1]

thanks man, very helpful answer, Dbol was never ment to dry out hehe, only to gain some quick size at the beginning, but anyway, why do you say primo is hard to use properly?? my BF will be below 10% due IF, so no problem.

The cost and the dosage required and length of time u need to run primo is not worth it. If ur looking to be dry forget the dbol,
With a good diet test and tren is fine