Oral Only Cycle! First time advice

[ballsohard3]

Hey guys, I'm about weight 140 6'1 tall, been working out for around 2 years 13 inch biceps pretty strong for my size imo I wanna do an oral cycle only. I know that injectable is better but just not gonna go that route. I'm skinny looking to put on 20-25 lbs. I plan is to do 4 weeks on dbol and 8 weeks on avanar for a 12 week cycle? what do you guys think is this safe I not going to over dose Im going to take the right dosage for my weight. Also what dosage do you think is right for my weight. I'am also going to be eatting around 3,000 calories a day. Thanks

[Soar]

Lmao is this a serious thread?


You're 22 and mommy and daddy are going to tell you what steroid you can take? Please at least try to go to the gym for a few years and ear more then your average 14 year old.

[Tron3219]

Oral only cycles are not advisable, u need a test base AND you need a better base then 6'1 140. U should get ur diet in check and do this naturally for awhile. And ur parents...that means your prolly to young anyways, ur endocrine system isn't fully developed yet.

[kaptainkeezy04]

those drugs shut down your testosterone production. you will not make gains. dbol will put on water weight and that is all. anavar is mostly used for cutting.

[MuscleInk]

Assuming you did get clearance from your parents, I am certain they are unaware of the general risks and the hepatotoxicity (liver toxicity/damage) that oral steroids can do to your liver.

[ballsohard3]

I have talked to people that have done this cycle they said I will gain around 20-25 lbs on this cycle but I might lose 10 pounds at most.

[ballsohard3]

Yeah, I know the risk but they say with the right dosage for your weight and not over dosing you will be fine.

[Tron3219]

I have take to people that have done this they save I will gain around 20-25 lbs on this cycle but I might lose 10 pounds at most.

So what r u asking us for? They know it all right? Ask them

[ballsohard3]

Just trying to get extra advice seeing if anyone else had good results on the oral only cycle? Thanks for the comments everyone is saying no to the cycle it seems.

[Tron3219]

Yeah, I know the risk but they say with the right dosage for your weight and not over dosing you will be fine.

Did they tell u about ai or pct?

[Soar]

Just trying to get extra advice seeing if anyone else had good results on the oral only cycle? Thanks for the comments everyone is saying no to the cycle it seems.

Oral only is the worst cycle you could run. Not to be a prick but you need to up your calories and hit the gym. Less reps more weight. Lots of vitamin P!

[Tron3219]

Just trying to get extra advice seeing if anyone else had good results on the oral only cycle? Thanks for the comments everyone is saying no to the cycle it seems.

Correct, it's an improper cycle and you have no base for starting aas. Steroids are not magic, merely multiplies good diet and training.

[ballsohard3]

Oral only is the worst cycle you could run. Not to be a prick but you need to up your calories and hit the gym. Less reps more weight. Lots of vitamin P!

Yes, many have told me it's just I cant do the injectable route. I'm going to try to eat atleast 3k calories a day but does around a 25 mg dbol and 25 anavar 12 week cycle with some milk thristle maybe some pro horomone work?

[Tron3219]

Yes, many have told me it's just I cant do the injectable route. I'm going to try to eat atleast 3k calories a day but does around a 25 mg dbol and 25 anavar 12 week cycle with some milk thristle maybe some pro horomone work?

Smfh....
No...just no....

[Soar]

Smfh....
No...just no....

^ this

[kaptainkeezy04]

Yes, many have told me it's just I cant do the injectable route. I'm going to try to eat atleast 3k calories a day but does around a 25 mg dbol and 25 anavar 12 week cycle with some milk thristle maybe some pro horomone work?

NO!!!! STOP!!!! you will screw up your body. oral only will not do shit for you! anavar is the worst drug for putting on weight. people take it while cutting so that they don't lose too much muscle, and maintain pumps and vascularity. anyone who took dbol or anavar to build muscle is uneducated.

[< <Samson> >]

Just stop, I hope u r kidding and this thread is a joke.


Do people really think that ANY steroid will just juice them up? I am pretty sure I know the answer. . . . . Oh geez.

[stpete]

Yes, many have told me it's just I cant do the injectable route. I'm going to try to eat atleast 3k calories a day but does around a 25 mg dbol and 25 anavar 12 week cycle with some milk thristle maybe some pro horomone work?

Hate to tell you, but this sport isn't for you. You can't "try" to eat said cals, you must eat like that. Your research is lacking to say the least. And if you can't inject, game over. These orals you speak of are no good for long term. And PH's are a joke.

[ballsohard3]

Hate to tell you, but this sport isn't for you. You can't "try" to eat said cals, you must eat like that. Your research is lacking to say the least. And if you can't inject, game over. These orals you speak of are no good for long term. And PH's are a joke.

This isnt going to be a sport for me lol. Just trying to get a good gains from this like a one time cycle thing but idk if I'am going to do it considering everyone said no.

[Soar]

This isnt going to be a sport for me lol. Just trying to get a good gains from this like a one time cycle thing but idk if I'am going to do it considering everyone said no.

Lets say you run it, you'll need to eat like a horse. Actually go to the gym 4-5 days a week, with proper rest and nutrition. And to keep your new found weight (which will be 90% water) you'll have to keep working out or the little bit of muscle you'll gain will go poof.

But at 140 you can easily get to 160-170 pretty fast with just good food and lots of it.

[kaptainkeezy04]

go to the diet and workout sections and have them help you. if you just up your calories, sleep, vitamin intake, you will be shocked at how fast you can grow from 140 to 160 NATURALLY! please trust us!

[ballsohard3]

Thanks for the advice guys I go to gym 4 weeks a week sometimes 5. Does this calorie intake have to be a healthy diet because the doctor literally told me right now in my stage of life i can eat whatever I what. I also taking animal stak right now as a booster.

[MuscleInk]

So.......

Two oral compounds and NO testosterone. NO AI. NO PCT? No HCG?

Whomever is giving you advice....kick them in the scrotum and have them read this:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...!#.UPOv3kK9Kc0

You will be suppressing your own testosterone an not replacing it. That is NOT a good decision. The people that have said this is "ok" have no business telling you so.

Your endocrine system regulates mood, appetite, memory, sex drive, sleep, wakefulness, cardiac functions, and more, and you want to shut that down? Not an intelligent idea.

Eating 3000 cals may or may not be enough depending on your TDEE and it's not just eating but what you eat and how often. It's not enough just to stuff your face with food. There are proper and improper nutrition plans.

[t-dogg]

Hey guys, I'm about weight 140 6'1 tall, been working out for around 2 years 13 inch biceps pretty strong for my size imo I wanna do an oral cycle only. I know that injectable is better but just not gonna go that route. I'm skinny looking to put on 20-25 lbs. I plan is to do 4 weeks on dbol and 8 weeks on avanar for a 12 week cycle? what do you guys think is this safe I not going to over dose Im going to take the right dosage for my weight. Also what dosage do you think is right for my weight. I'am also going to be eatting around 3,000 calories a day. Thanks

well...

1) oral only is bad

2) its just a waste of money

3) very bad for your health

4) no where near aas ready

5) you need a sandwhich

[ballsohard3]

Thanks guys, also if I was to do a injectable route in the future what would eba good route and safe route for me with my weight? Also does the shot hurt that bad?

[Soar]

Doesn't hurt at all but it won't do anything at your current weight.

[kaptainkeezy04]

Thanks guys, also if I was to do a injectable route in the future what would eba good route and safe route for me with my weight? Also does the shot hurt that bad?

normally it doesn't hurt. but seriously at your weight, i would eat egg and bacon sandwhiches all day. i wish i had ate everything in sight when i first started lifting. judging by your weight and height you posted, i'm guessing you are very lean, probably have all abs showing. eat everything in sight within reason. don't go crazy on potato chips and beer thinking all calories are good calories.

[MuscleInk]

Thanks guys, also if I was to do a injectable route in the future what would eba good route and safe route for me with my weight? Also does the shot hurt that bad?

Depends on goals, gear used, concentrations, total volume injected, location injected, size of muscle, bore size of pin, speed of injection, wrt to pain. Injectable is the way to go. For first time it should be a single long testosterone ester and a proper cycle.

[boz]

AHhhh right that reminds me, now i know why i stopped reading AAS Q&A threads.

[marcus300]

Forget steroids for a couple of years, your researching the wrong area for you to achieve your goals. The area you need to understand is nutrition because at 140lbs at 6ft 1" your not eating anywhere near enough calories. Even if you did use steroids you would lose all the gains afterwards because your diet can support new tissue otherwise if it could you would be heavy now, so shutting down your natrual test isnt worth it and you will probably end up lighter because of the recovery and diet after you have come off.

You need to learn how to eat correct to gain mass, you may think your eating enough quality food but your aren't and this is your problem and in all honesty you can gain another 40lbs easy if you knew what to eat and you consistently did this for the next couple of yrs. I would also look at your training because I suspect that isnt intense enough and this is another area where you can gain more muscle tissue, go to the diet and workout sections post what you do and let us try and help you build some muscle.

First thing, forget steroids, dont listen to your friends because once you do and concentrate on the right area this is when things will start to happen.

[kaptainkeezy04]

AHhhh right that reminds me, now i know why i stopped reading AAS Q&A threads.

i just started helping out in here after years of retiring from this section, and it is the most frustrating thing ever.

[boz]

I take my hat off to the vets, how they stayed composed and still try to teach ppl and advise them to the best way possible, whilst still keeping there cool. It wouldnt be easy day in day out seeing threads like this.

[ma_fighter]

Forget steroids for a couple of years, your researching the wrong area for you to achieve your goals. The area you need to understand is nutrition because at 140lbs at 6ft 1" your not eating anywhere near enough calories. Even if you did use steroids you would lose all the gains afterwards because your diet can support new tissue otherwise if it could you would be heavy now, so shutting down your natrual test isnt worth it and you will probably end up lighter because of the recovery and diet after you have come off.

You need to learn how to eat correct to gain mass, you may think your eating enough quality food but your aren't and this is your problem and in all honesty you can gain another 40lbs easy if you knew what to eat and you consistently did this for the next couple of yrs. I would also look at your training because I suspect that isnt intense enough and this is another area where you can gain more muscle tissue, go to the diet and workout sections post what you do and let us try and help you build some muscle.

First thing, forget steroids, dont listen to your friends because once you do and concentrate on the right area this is when things will start to happen.

Listen to Marcus, he knows his sh!t.

You're 1" taller then me, and still manages to be 30 lbs lighter!
And I'm not a big, muscular guy, I've been eating a kcal deficit for over a year, and LOST 76 lbs, whilst not even training for a lot of the time, and I'm STILL 30 lbs heavier then you..
I'm the skinniest, and weakest, I've ever been in my adult life, and I'm still 30 lbs heavier then you..

ALL you need to concentrate on right now is nutrition (well, and how to train hard with intensity)
Once you learn how to stuff your face, you'll start gaining weight, and if you eat the right stuff, and train the right way, you'll start packing on muscle faster then you can imagine.

Make SURE you get at least 150g of protein a day, and increase that number as you start gaining weight. Also make sure that you're protein intake is consistent throughout the day That means that you make sure you get some protein in your body 5-6 times a day, every day.
Make SURE you hit 3000kcal a day, every day
If you're having trouble eating enough, you buy some almonds, or natural nuts, you can eat 20grams (about a shot glass, or big handfull) after each of your 5 meals, and that'll give you an extra ~500kcal per day.
It's a nice trick to get started, because even if you're full, you can always force a fistfull of nuts down your throat.

/Maf

[Relpur]

As badly as everyone ripped this thread apart it helped me a lot. I am a newb as well and was about to order an all oral cycle of dbol, anadrol, proviron and nolvadex until I read this. I've been on and off this site for months but its def a lot to take in when just starting. Obviously an all oral cycle is not the best thing to do. I'm going to re-eval but just wanting to say thanks to all vets for posting on this thread.

[Relpur]

As badly as everyone ripped this thread apart it helped me a lot. I am a newb as well and was about to order an all oral cycle of dbol, anadrol, proviron and nolvadex until I read this. I've been on and off this site for months but its def a lot to take in when just starting. Obviously an all oral cycle is not the best thing to do. I'm going to re-eval but just wanting to say thanks to all vets for posting on this thread.

[Relpur]

sorry for repost

[>Good Luck<]

The only time oral only is ok is when the red river flows, and the dirt road is closed

[Relpur]

lmao

[kronik420]

well...

1) oral only is bad

2) its just a waste of money

3) very bad for your health

4) no where near aas ready

5) you need a sandwhich

[fransene]

hey guys im new here, i weigh 135, and eat like a cow, tried several protein supplements to gain weight but the doctor says my metabolism ios justy way to fast. so ive decided to try steroids, ive never done them before but im thinking about takin dbol and testosterone 600 together for 3 months while going to the gym, will i make good gains with this????