Var experiances please !!

[binsser]

Hi all im looking to do a mild cycle after ive just done a really heavy one so would like to see what experiances people have with a var only cycle??

I know people say you should add test but why ??? , As test shuts you down but var only supresses not shuts you down can anyone shed some light on this???

The reason why var only seems a good cycle now for me as ive done a really heavy one last time so just want abit of an easyer one for the body this time!

Please let me know of you experiances coming from you our family of muscle building nutters lolol it would be of massive interest to me thanks all speak soon!

Stats-

33
5 11
210lbs
6 cycles so far
17 years training

[Lunk1]

Var can shut you down...it's mainly dose dependent!

[Bigshotvictoria]

Var can shut you down...it's mainly dose dependent!

I would also say dependent on the individual, 60mg/day may only shut me down 50%, you 100%, and him 75%. In my mind it's not worth it without test. I know guys who do it religiously and say they're fine. These guys have also never had blood work, and I doubt they'd brag to their buddies about low libido and ED. Then the idea of test at TRT dosage just for a var cycle seems like a waste, full shutdown for Var only gains? This really only makes sense to me if you're already on TRT, then Var only isn't a big deal. But hey, thats just my .02, not certified fact.

[t-dogg]

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[Lunk1]

Any dose for a man will most likely shut you down.

Test needs to be ran for maximum results.

Sorry T...thats not really true as far as shutdown is concerned. Suppression to one degree or another but as said above...based on individual response and dosages!

[t-dogg]

Sorry T...thats not really true as far as shutdown is concerned. Suppression to one degree or another but as said above...based on individual response and dosages!

Lol my phone is messed up. I posted in the wrong place...

DROID is dieing.

[t-dogg]

Var can shut you down...it's mainly dose dependent!

This.


Plus you will have much better results with test aiding anavar.

[binsser]

Ok i was going for 50 mg daily not sure on the test prop mg yet could do 400mg of prop with 50mg of var with ai and hcg through out just after a while get bored of pinning everyday lol might do eod got a couple off months yet but got it in so its all here im doing this for a cut as well cardio 6 days a week this time with 60-90 minutes and 500 calories lower than mai tenaince .

[t-dogg]

My last cycle i ran was 500mgs of test and 60mgs of anavar. Great results.

[Alinjr]

I use test as a base with any cycle.

[RoadToHuge]

My last cycle wass Test 250ish tren 400ish and 100mg anavar first 2 weeks and last 4 weeks. Cycle of the gods..

[Bio-Active]

My last cycle wass Test 250ish tren 400ish and 100mg anavar first 2 weeks and last 4 weeks. Cycle of the gods..

Lol it's hard not to pull that plunger back a little further isn't it?

[RoadToHuge]

Lol it's hard not to pull that plunger back a little further isn't it?

Agreed! heheh

[Bio-Active]

Agreed! heheh

Hehe I do it all the time. Whatever my wife thinks my dose is its always a little more

[ElectraMaddox]

I'm on a var cycle now... But I'm a chick... It's makes me super tired... I also feel like wonder woman in the gym. I have a log on it in member cycles but I don't think it's exactly what you're looking for

[binsser]

Yeah ill do 450mg prop and 60 mg var i have got 20ml of tren ace but just dont want anything to harsh think ill save it for the next cycle . do you take any liver protection for the orals as if there real they only come in 10 mg pills .. So thats like 6 a day??

[binsser]

No.. Thats exactly what im looking for !! my girl is asking if i can get some for her but i said i dont know ill see how it is first so ill have a look thanks its just what im looking for mate!

[Alinjr]

I'm on a var cycle now... But I'm a chick... It's makes me super tired... I also feel like wonder woman in the gym. I have a log on it in member cycles but I don't think it's exactly what you're looking for

Good input, girl or not.

[ElectraMaddox]

No.. Thats exactly what im looking for !! my girl is asking if i can get some for her but i said i dont know ill see how it is first so ill have a look thanks its just what im looking for mate!

Member cycle.... Female var log 1st cycle is the title

[ElectraMaddox]

Good input, girl or not.

Thanks!

[ElectraMaddox]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...male-1st-cycle

[binsser]

Great bit of info ....oh and well done great work

[RoadToHuge]

The Var I get is 50mg a cap. Its straight fire tho. The pumps on the stuff is so intense its almost unbearable!

[binsser]

Mmmm 50 caps would be mint ...guess ill just have to do with what ive got its ph grade though all his bits are mint.

Ill have to run a log when i start see what we get in way if gains and cut should be good , Still on time off though so not quite yet even though everything is mint now ill still wait....

50caps eh mmm gutted he told me anything over 10 were faked ??

Think ill have another chat with him did you take liver protection as well???

[RoadToHuge]

Mmmm 50 caps would be mint ...guess ill just have to do with what ive got its ph grade though all his bits are mint.

Ill have to run a log when i start see what we get in way if gains and cut should be good , Still on time off though so not quite yet even though everything is mint now ill still wait....

50caps eh mmm gutted he told me anything over 10 were faked ??

Think ill have another chat with him did you take liver protection as well???

No, liver values were golden on my bloodwork..

[boxingfan30]

I was hung up on only using Var before all of the guys here got it through to me that I should run test with anything like that. While I never have used Var, or anything for that matter I can tell you based on my reading that with 20-30 mg doses after 8 weeks in studies test suppression was at 60%. If you just did a bigger cycle, I don't think you want your levels to drop that much... add 20 more mg's to that and you MIGHT wind up with some problems you don't want.

[boxingfan30]

Sorry, that was 12 weeks.... "Oxandrolone used in a dose of 20 mg/day suppressed endogenous testosterone by 67% after 12 weeks of therapy."

[ElectraMaddox]

Great bit of info ....oh and well done great work

Thanks!

[RoadToHuge]

So if you were at sat 500 nm/l then you would be at 165. **** that thats a ton of supression. You could experience ED issues right thur..

[Antoinefan]

Hi all im looking to do a mild cycle after ive just done a really heavy one so would like to see what experiances people have with a var only cycle??

I know people say you should add test but why ??? , As test shuts you down but var only supresses not shuts you down can anyone shed some light on this???

The reason why var only seems a good cycle now for me as ive done a really heavy one last time so just want abit of an easyer one for the body this time!

Please let me know of you experiances coming from you our family of muscle building nutters lolol it would be of massive interest to me thanks all speak soon!

Stats-

33
5 11
210lbs
6 cycles so far
17 years training

Ive ran var alone twice. first time at 60mg/ed for 8 weeks. noticed more vascularity, hardness, always sweating, strength was up a tad. no bad sides or anything.
second cycle was 80mg/ed for 6 weeks. same results but seemed ike the higher dose didnt really make the drug any better.

i would save your money and just wait for another cycle. if you wanna do something that isnt hard on your body just run a simpe test only cycle. IMO

[binsser]

To be honest i can get var and test for a tiny snip at what my primo costs so costs arent an issue specialywith this cycle and anyway its coming tommorrow lolol so this is what im gonna do tell me what you think-

Var -60mg a day

Test prop 150mg eod or monday wednesday friday

With all the usaul stuff 2 x 250 hcg and arimedex every 3 day prob do 0.25 to start

[t-dogg]

If your diet is good, its a great cycle.

[binsser]

Diet is a cut and is around 2700 calories with carbs only before and after training with turkey all the way though the day and a steak at night the meals in between are eggs and my only source of carbs is oats with water only for months so pretty much a basic diet but has a decent amount of protien and low carbs and fats are around 60 g a day so think itll do ok i might actually do a log see how we go!!

[Rwy]

My last cycle i ran was 500mgs of test and 60mgs of anavar. Great results.

Ran this over the summer. Great results


I am currently running 150mg of var w my trt dose about ten days in. Loving the way I feel right now.

[t-dogg]

Ran this over the summer. Great results

I am currently running 150mg of var w my trt dose about ten days in. Loving the way I feel right now.

How is 150gms of anavar going?

[boxingfan30]

Ran this over the summer. Great results


I am currently running 150mg of var w my trt dose about ten days in. Loving the way I feel right now.

150? are you going for a record of how fast you can kill your liver?

[binsser]

It is quite mild on the liver ... Lolol but thats is high but ive heard of 200 and he was completely fine.

[boxingfan30]

It is quite mild on the liver ... Lolol but thats is high but ive heard of 200 and he was completely fine.

It's mild on some... not for others, but 50-80 is about the highest I have seen and guys on that get very painful pumps, 150 is a ridiculous amount and with a TRT dose of test I can't see how it still wouldn't all but shut you down completely... but i'm not an expert... whatever works for someone I guess.

[Bigshotvictoria]

It is quite mild on the liver ... Lolol but thats is high but ive heard of 200 and he was completely fine.

no way to know unless they had blood work.

[binsser]

Yeah i think 60 will be fine