Ran TREN Extreme too young

[gordyloops]

im 19 now. i ran tren extreme, the pill form, at 15. I didnt run a pct or do a liver cleanse. i had no idea how powerful this stuff is and i need help getting back to normal. i have a real tough time achieving a real "diamond cutter" erection, let alone a softer one. this has really affected me the most. i had a little gyno before the tren cycle, but itnever went away, so i definitely have puffy nipples. i went to the doc, they said it should be out of my system by now but my body is telling me different. ive been working out pretty hard and following a good diet over the last year and my main issues haven't improved.
id appreciate some tips and advice.
thanks

[Bigshotvictoria]

It's not the presence of the PH, but the lack of testosterone caused by the PH in your system. Has your doctor ordered bloodwork? Thats really the only way to see where your natural test levels are. At 19 the PH you took is long gone from your system.

[austinite]

what is this? OTC product?

[Bigshotvictoria]

what is this? OTC product?

It's a PH, non-methylated. I remember it being the rage a while back.

[Lunk1]

It was made by ACL and was banned a few years ago when it was found to contain steroid precursors. Actually pretty good stuff for a PH!

[gearbox]

It's a PH, non-methylated. I remember it being the rage a while back.

correct!

It is a pro H and is not suppose to cause any gyno or "estro" related issues

I actually know more about this pro H then others cause a younger dude hit me up about wanting to run it and I said no no no and I will explain why.

op- you need to get blood work done so the doc and US can know what we are dealing with.

[boz]

For starters you shouldn't of been anywhere near a gym at the age of 15, let alone take aas.

It's not the presence of the PH, but the lack of testosterone caused by the PH in your system. Has your doctor ordered bloodwork? Thats really the only way to see where your natural test levels are. At 19 the PH you took is long gone from your system.

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[songdog]

I agree bro bloodwork you may need to go to a Endo to get proper treatment.beacuse most doctors dont know much about aas.

[Granovich]

Yep i had the same shit 2 years ago
i wasnt 15 , i was 22.. still hurt me pretty bad. same product. no gyno only ED
hopefully you didnt get permanent damage
BW is the answer brother. then you need to talk to an Endocrinologist

[lolfb]

what is this? OTC product?

It was an OTC before it got banned. The compound in it is dienedione. Converts to dienolone in the system but functions a little differently from pure dienolone, possibly because it's an active steroid without the conversion.

OP - tren extreme is a 19-nor steroid. It's very harsh and will shut you down very easily and very fast. How long did you run the compound? and how long ago was this? I suggest getting full bloods done as others have said.

[Bigshotvictoria]

It was an OTC before it got banned. The compound in it is dienedione. Converts to dienolone in the system but functions a little differently from pure dienolone, possibly because it's an active steroid without the conversion.

OP - tren extreme is a 19-nor steroid. It's very harsh and will shut you down very easily and very fast. How long did you run the compound? and how long ago was this? I suggest getting full bloods done as others have said.

Someone discovered google

Just joking. But not. The problem with a lot of PH's is that they make up a name for what it is, make up that it's an analog of this or that steroid, or outright lie about whats in it. I remember Epistane ended up not being Epistane at all, but maxLMG, a superdrol clone. I have no problem calling all that stuff poison.

[lolfb]

Someone discovered google

Just joking. But not. The problem with a lot of PH's is that they make up a name for what it is, make up that it's an analog of this or that steroid, or outright lie about whats in it. I remember Epistane ended up not being Epistane at all, but maxLMG, a superdrol clone. I have no problem calling all that stuff poison.

nah, been in the ph scene for way too long. Found the light (injectables) after my second cycle of that crap. never again.

You sure about the epistane stuff? Never heard that before. But you're right about the lies and what not. Unlike injectables, most of that stuff isn't studied enough to figure out what it actually does. The companies just release random new compounds, and give test samples to guinea pigs to see what kind of side effects and effects it has on the body.

[gordyloops]

thanks for the quick replies. i haven't had any blood work done yet. this is something i will get done very soon. i took the stuff for about 5 weeks and it was 3 and a half years ago. what typically happens once i get this bw done, and negative results come back? is there a long term solution out there?

[austinite]

^ once you get bloodwork you will see if you have any trouble areas and probably be prescribed something to fix it. Hopefully no long term damage is done.

[lolfb]

thanks for the quick replies. i haven't had any blood work done yet. this is something i will get done very soon. i took the stuff for about 5 weeks and it was 3 and a half years ago. what typically happens once i get this bw done, and negative results come back? is there a long term solution out there?

Depends on what the results are. There is speculation that tren extreme can cause prolactin to go up, which can be cause of the ED. Or it can be high estrogen. or it can be low test. Each one will have its own treatment. If you're still shutdown after 3 years, as in very low test, you can try clomid and variety of other things to get you running again. But being shutdown for 3 years is going to be hard to recover from. Get the bloods done and go from there. Your doctor should also be able to give you a rough idea of whats going on after he sees the bloodwork.

[bcaasdirty]

Someone discovered google

Just joking. But not. The problem with a lot of PH's is that they make up a name for what it is, make up that it's an analog of this or that steroid, or outright lie about whats in it. I remember Epistane ended up not being Epistane at all, but maxLMG, a superdrol clone. I have no problem calling all that stuff poison.

Epistane was found to have WAY less of the active compound than claimed on the bottle, I never read about it being maxLMG.

MaxLMG was not a superdrol clone, but another non-methyl 19-nor, w/ a reputation for soaking wet gains and being a libido killer.
SuperDrol on the other hand was an oddity cross between methylated masteron/2a reduced anadrol w/ a rep for lean dry gains and huge strength increase.

OP, been in your shoes bud and its not fun. Like others have recommended, get BW done and go from there. Good luck.

[swm1972]

For starters you shouldn't of been anywhere near a gym at the age of 15, let alone take aas.

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Just curious why a 15 year old shouldn't be in the gym. I help train a local high school football team. You wouldn't believe the strides some 14 and 15 year olds make in strength and size when they take my diet advise to heart. My sports medicine doctor tells me it varies dependent on maturity level but 13-15 is a good average for developing these attributes. Some might be ready sooner. Others later. So... Just thought I would ask.

[gordyloops]

just got my blood work results back and the doctor said im completely fine. on paper it sounds good, but the problem is still there. any suggestions?

[diabolicsoul]

just got my blood work results back and the doctor said im completely fine. on paper it sounds good, but the problem is still there. any suggestions?

Get another doctors opinion/ see an endo?