What to take?

[ALFLAR]

I can bulk pertty good even without roids but I'm haveing trouble getting rid of the last bit of fat to really look chiseled. My gains have also gotten small I wanna get stronger without to much bulk. Last time I took 50mg a day of anavar for ten weeks and got great results. Anything better or suggestions. I'm thinking of doing the same thing.

[Turkish Juicer]

Stats?

[Scottyb13]

What's your diet.. Get ALOT of results by dieting correctly

[Sick_beard]

So the anavar gave you good strength gains? What happened after you stopped taking it?

[ALFLAR]

Diets good lots of protein and veggies I have one cheat day a week. Only supplements are vitamins and NO before working out.
I'm 6' 225lbs

Yea got strength gains not huge but stopped me from plateauing and kept them as long as I kept lifting

[Scottyb13]

Go into nutrition forum and click stickies ontop.. Check out "dieting 101 cutting " I think it is ... Idk how to copy the link sorry

[ALFLAR]

Just checked it out I'm doing pertty good but I really don't want to cut my intake to much last time I tried that I felt immediate effects

[Scottyb13]

Well I can't tell you from a personal experience but my friend wanted to cut also and he did not want to so AAS so he used hydroxycut and he is very pleased with the outcome

[ALFLAR]

That might work but I'm still looking to get strength gains too. I've tried oxy elite before it works good for cutting but still lacking the strength gains I want

[Scottyb13]

Read this... I'm not recommending any cycles, specially clen and test but just read the thread

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...nterproductive

[Turkish Juicer]

Again, stats?

[ALFLAR]

what kind of stats im 6' 225 do you want like what i can lift

[Soar]

Age, height, body fat percentage etc

[leather daddy]

choose one or the other mate. bulk or CUT!

you wanna cut, cut your calories more or add in cardio/rid the cheat day and stick to one cheatmeal a week/ever 10 days. There your options. or try clen/t3 or DNP BUT RESEARCH THEM FIRST!

[leather daddy]

Also mind posting up your current diet, with marcos, Your TDEE etc.
cheers

[ALFLAR]

I'm 27 6' and my body fat is around 11%

You recommend clen or dnp ill go research them

[Turkish Juicer]

You recommend clen or dnp ill go research them

I recommend neither.