Is there a way to test how pure your powder is?

[ironbeck]

Just as the title states, for example:
1g of Test E = 1000mg of powder, but how much of the 1000mg is hormone?

[panntastic]

Just as the title states, for example:
1g of Test E = 1000mg of powder, but how much of the 1000mg is hormone?

You need to look into ester weights for your answers
I can't remember the exact figures so don't quote me
Short esters like prop are best value mg wise as you get around 75-85% of the actual hormone
For example
If you injected 1000mg of prop you would receive around 750-850mg of actual testosterone after the ester is cleaved
Compared to around 55-65% of the enanthate ester which would equal 550-650mg of free test after ester cleaving

All esters are different due to ester weight.
The best form obviously being test base or suspension as there is no ester but twice day injections
Then the shorter the ester the more test available the longer like decanoate etc the less available after cleaving

[panntastic]

Read this it goes into greater detail than I just have
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-their-purpose!

[swm1972]

Also depends on the purity and quality of the powders you get too. I've seen crap filter out and knew the it was fairly significant weight wise and therefore reducing the mg/ml.

[Far from massive]

I don't know who is misreading the meaning but to me I see it as swim does ironbeck is trying to acertain the quality of the powder. Unfortunately its not easy to do a 100% accurate test (you can look up tests for most common hormones and they almost always involve expensive lab equipment and often comparing fractions reflective wavelength to a known good sample) so its not something most of us can do.

The good news is that some basic tests can spot common additives,

(1) A melt test should show a powder sample where none of it melts much below the proper temp and none of it melts much above the proper temp.

(2) Most compounds are not soluable in water but are completely soluable in alcohol. So by drying and then wieghing the sample and a filter paper then adding water stirring and running through filter and then drying and rewieghing you can see any loss of wieght. Conversly adding an adequate amount of alcohol should completely melt the sample so any that remains unmelted is an impurity.

Thats it for simple and basic tests. Honestly most crap powders show thier true colors on a standard melt test.


Hope this helps,

FFM

[milopatrone]

You need to get a friend who is going for a biochemistry or biological science degree down at the local college or even community college who you trust and have them run a bit of your powder through an Ir, H-NMR, and C-NMR machine and they will be able to tell you what compound you have and how many impurities it has in it. If they have a gas chromatography machine they will be able to tell you exactly. They sound crazy if you have never heard of them before but soft more chemistry students have full private access to the machines at most colleges.

[milopatrone]

(1) A melt test should show a powder sample where none of it melts much below the proper temp and none of it melts much above the proper temp.

(2) Most compounds are not soluable in water but are completely soluable in alcohol. So by drying and then wieghing the sample and a filter paper then adding water stirring and running through filter and then drying and rewieghing you can see any loss of wieght. Conversly adding an adequate amount of alcohol should completely melt the sample so any that remains unmelted is an impurity.

Thats it for simple and basic tests. Honestly most crap powders show thier true colors on a standard melt test.


Hope this helps,

FFM

Although this is easier to do and can be done without trouble at home.

[ironbeck]

I don't know who is misreading the meaning but to me I see it as swim does ironbeck is trying to acertain the quality of the powder. Unfortunately its not easy to do a 100% accurate test (you can look up tests for most common hormones and they almost always involve expensive lab equipment and often comparing fractions reflective wavelength to a known good sample) so its not something most of us can do.

The good news is that some basic tests can spot common additives,

(1) A melt test should show a powder sample where none of it melts much below the proper temp and none of it melts much above the proper temp.

(2) Most compounds are not soluable in water but are completely soluable in alcohol. So by drying and then wieghing the sample and a filter paper then adding water stirring and running through filter and then drying and rewieghing you can see any loss of wieght. Conversly adding an adequate amount of alcohol should completely melt the sample so any that remains unmelted is an impurity.

Thats it for simple and basic tests. Honestly most crap powders show thier true colors on a standard melt test.


Hope this helps,

FFM

This helps immensely, I like the melting with alcohol trick, this seems to be the quickest method.
Do you know if this method is valid with winni? and is that common household Isopropyl rubbing alcohol 70%

[Bonaparte]

You need to look into ester weights for your answers
I can't remember the exact figures so don't quote me
Short esters like prop are best value mg wise as you get around 75-85% of the actual hormone
For example
If you injected 1000mg of prop you would receive around 750-850mg of actual testosterone after the ester is cleaved
Compared to around 55-65% of the enanthate ester which would equal 550-650mg of free test after ester cleaving

All esters are different due to ester weight.
The best form obviously being test base or suspension as there is no ester but twice day injections
Then the shorter the ester the more test available the longer like decanoate etc the less available after cleaving

Test E is 70% hormone.
You can easily calculate this by dividing the base hormone's molecular weight by the weight of the hormone + ester.

i.e. molecular weight of test/weight of test enanthate= percent of actual hormone in compound.

Molecular weights can easily be found on chem reference websites with a google search.

[ironbeck]

Test E is 70% hormone.
You can easily calculate this by dividing the base hormone's molecular weight by the weight of the hormone + ester.

i.e. molecular weight of test/weight of test enanthate= percent of actual hormone in compound.

Molecular weights can easily be found on chem reference websites with a google search.

Yikes ! 70% hormone and 30% what?

[panntastic]

Ester and the small amount of fillers in the powder

[Bonaparte]

Yikes ! 70% hormone and 30% what?

Enanthic acid.

[ironbeck]

Enanthic acid.

B do u know if the alcohol thing will work with winni?

[Bonaparte]

I've never tried this alcohol test. But I doubt it will work well on something as insoluble as winny.

[BlueWaffle21]

Atomini did a whole write up about this, look it up!

[ironbeck]

Atomini did a whole write up about this, look it up!

Of course he did, i don't think I would be able to finish reading his write up before falling asleep lol