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    Pip from sust and how to reduce it

    Hi guys,

    I'm currently injecting sust 250 twice a week (500total/w). I'm also using deca 400mg/w. and dbol as kick-start.
    When I inject sust 250 just 1ml alone, after 2 days it's really painful, I mean pure pain...it doesn't turn red or strange, no abscess etc.. it's only a fuking post injection pain, and I have problem training with that pain. I don't want to take paracetamol because I'm also on dbol and I don't want to kill my liver.

    Yes the gear is ug but I used similar products before so I know it works.

    I notice that when I use sust 250 1ml and I mixed with deca 400 2ml I have almost nothing pip and I can train legs and whatever I want the following days. I also tryed to divide the deca in two inj only 200mg 1 ml each, but the result was not the same as 1ml of sut 2ml of deca.

    Since this pain is bother me and doesn't help me train. I wanted to do something like this:

    Mon: sust 250 1ml mixed with deca 400 2ml (as I saild when I mix sust it with 2ml of anything also I don't feel pip)
    Thur: sust 250 1ml mixed with boldenon 400 2ml

    Ps: I'm already 3 weeks in my cycle. I'm on dbol (kick-start) just for 6 weeks, 3 weeks left.

    I have 8 week left and I know that bold should be used at least for 14 weeks but honestly I don't care about the money or results bold can give, I have tons of equipose at home so I could just use it as if it were only oil. The only thing I care is be able to train properly and know that my coumpound is not dangerous.

    Any critique and advice would be welcome. Thanks

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    I've mixed mine w/low dose test before. Or, split dosages to keep pain minimal.

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    Thank you stpete, I'll mix it for sure. I'm just thinking if I should use EQ on the thur injection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belva
    Thank you stpete, I'll mix it for sure. I'm just thinking if I should use EQ on the thur injection.
    I had to switch to prop for the same reason. It's just too much and training is pretty much out of the question for the muscle you pinned. I'd give St Pete's advice a chance by mixing it with some low d test. Good luck!!

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    Virgin Muscle

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    Sust is a good one for pain that's for sure. After a few injections my glutes don't feel it anymore. I'm pinni. E3D and even after 10wks my delts still hurt for a day or two. Even if its only 1ml so I try to stick to glutes. You'll be fine and it'll get easier as you go for sure

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    You can cut it with sterile oil.

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    Blends always hurt more. SuperTest (T400) is pretty bad for PIP. Sustanon as well but not as much. In general, the more concentrated the gear and the greater the number of varying esters, the more its going to hurt. Virgin muscles will have some influence but even after running several cycles, t400 always kicks my ass with PIP.

    As suggested, you can dilute the product with sterile oil or inject less gear by injecting smaller volumes in several locations. I find it easier to inject 4 .5ml shots of t400 (400mg/ml) than one 2ml shot of the same gear.

    You'll find creative ways to minimize it, or you'll just grin and bare it!!!

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    I like to put a low heat heating pad on the site for just a few minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    You can cut it with sterile oil.
    Or B12.

    But the best way i have found to avoid PIP with Sust250 is...dont use it! I hate blends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warmouth
    I like to put a low heat heating pad on the site for just a few minutes.
    I could turn my kitchen oven to broil, sit in it for an hour and the damn PIP would still be there!!! Heat helps but larger volumes are tortuous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

    Or B12.

    But the best way i have found to avoid PIP with Sust250 is...dont use it! I hate blends.
    I tried that too. My rig/syringe looked like a lava lamp!

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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    You can cut it with sterile oil.
    I don't have steril oil, I have boldenon instead and I don't think I'll use it in any other cycle so I'm thinking of using it for y last 8 weeks, I know It wouldn't help and are probabily money thrown away but I'm fine with it if the pain will go away.

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